Well thanks for setting me strait!!! Im not an idiot though guys. sometimes it seems like their is a gray area dont need to grill me just set me straight so that I dont make any wrong moves. I read that proc and it is still a little confusing. “In utah the bag and possession limits are the same. For example, once youve harvested a limit of trout you cannot harvest any more trout until you have CONSUMED or donated at least some of the trout you have harvested.” So you can still catch and release trout and keep fishing right. I realize the perch in the winter is a whole different subject and am not trying to argue. I m just still confused. Say I am ice fishing at night so maybe I catch 10 perch and have to stop fishing then I eat them up while I am out their all of them 11:59 Pm one minute later I can start fishin again right probably wont ever do this but I really thought you didnt have to count your fish youve had as shore lunch as a part of your limit. I guess its a good thing I know now though because I not knowing the rules is ignorant and I dont ever want to be that guy. I also dont try to bend them it seemed like a good idea. As for the fish being a part of you IT WAS A JOKE!!! man. Can we still be friends?
Im glad some people are as confused as i am. Were all here to help each other. I think any information is good. thanks for postin this thread sinergy
If you have 10 perch at Yuba today and it turns 12:01 am tomorrow and you still have 10 perch you still can’t fish as you are in violation of the perch limit. Sorry.
no remember i ate all of the ones i already caught
There is another option I wish would be more readily promoted. The fact of the matter is that a lot of people, regardless of regulations, are going to turn a bladder bloated perch back down the hole, why not teach them how to do it it such a way that the fish will get back down to depth, recompress, and swim free?
They do this same thing for rock bass in saltwater, and it works very well for freshwater too.
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Get a heavy weight, like a surfcasting or trolling weight (at least 6 ounces or more for most fish) and put a snap swivel on it.
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Get an *open *safety pin and turn it upside down (sharp point downwards), and use electrical tape to attach it to the weight that way.
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Attach weight to your line with snap swivel.
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Catch a bladder-bloated fish and gently put the upside down , open safety pin through it’s lip (this is less damaging than a barbed hook).
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Drop fish and weight back into the water and let sink down all the way to the bottom.
6.Give your rod a nice jerk and presto, the fish comes off the safety pin and has now recompressed so it swims away as if nothing happened.
You said: “once youve harvested a limit of trout you cannot harvest any more trout until you have CONSUMED or donated at least some of the trout you have harvested.” So you can still catch and release trout and keep fishing right."
This is not true,once you have caught your limit you are done fishing. One of our members got a ticket for this a year or two ago. Lunkerhunter was fishing at Bear lake and had a limit of Lake trout, he started fishing for White fish and a DWR officer came up and checked his catch. He was told he was done for the day because he had a limit of laketrout and he might catch another while fishing for whitefish. Hopefully Brody will confirm this.
You also said: “Say I am ice fishing at night so maybe I catch 10 perch and have to stop fishing then I eat them up while I am out their all of them 11:59 Pm one minute later I can start fishin again right”, you are correct. As long as you eat the fish one day and start fishing the next day you would be legal. I just got off the phone with the DWR and confirmed it.
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Bag and possession limits are the same. You can’t eat fish and not count them in your daily bag limit. Never been that way(in all my 29 years). As far as your perch eating idea, If you catch 10 perch at Yuba on saturday and eat them before midnight, at 12:00 am on sunday you can catch 10 more. If you do, weather you eat them or not, you must stop fishing for the day as you have already caught your bag and possession limit for there. All perch must be kept up to 10 fish. Make sense?[;)]
You said: “once youve harvested a limit of trout you cannot harvest any more trout until you have CONSUMED or donated at least some of the trout you have harvested.” So you can still catch and release trout and keep fishing right."
This is not true,once you have caught your limit you are done fishing. One of our members got a ticket for this a year or two ago. Lunkerhunter was fishing at Bear lake and had a limit of Lake trout, he started fishing for White fish and a DWR officer came up and checked his catch. He was told he was done for the day because he had a limit of laketrout and he might catch another while fishing for whitefish. Hopefully Brody will confirm this.
Curt, i did NOT get ticketed or even a warning for this. They didn’t have a leg to stand on or a solid head on their shoulders. I was told that their sergeant was going to contact me in regards to filing a complaint and the laws for that particular incident and never heard back. I still question the (fishing after you have your limit)statement. It does not say yes or no anywhere. It is “common practice and everybody knows that” is the response i got.[;)]
hi guys i dont think I am very good at typing what is on my mind sorry. That quote was just what i read in the proc. Then asked a question about it, anyways what i meant was The law states with the new perch regs that you have to quit fishing all together between certain months but in what about in the summertime? Do you really have to stop fishing after a limit of fish is filled no matter what the species? I guess than I seem like I know nothing but m whole life I have never even thought about these issues because I rarely ever keep any fish. Only recently became an issue for me because I ice fish in lakes that have the perch in it. I do need to know the exact details so when Im at starvation eating a wonderful fish fry shore lunch I dont go back out and get into trouble with the fish cops. Also I about my miss understanding dont know where i heard that from, may have been a fishing show and be the regs for another state. It just seemed to be a valid option to me but, I do now understand that its not. Please keep posting, the info is valuable to me as a fisherman who doesnt want to be in the wrong. I support and obey all the laws strictly and absence of info is not a valid defense if your being an idiot out their.
Sometimes we can’t see the forest for the trees. ( me included)
It’s really pretty simple
in the 2009 proc it says in the definition pages:
“Bag limit: means the maximum limit,in number or amount, of protected wildlife that one person may legally take during one day.”
the word "take"says it all. what you do with them after
(like eat) doesn’t matter
“Possession limit: means, the for the purposes of this guide only, one bag limit, including fish at home, in a cooler, camper, tent, freezer, livewell, or any other place of storage.”
that means if you caught 10 perch at 11:00pm and go put them in your car in a cooler, you cannot go back out at 12:01 am and catch 10 more! Don’t ever get caught with more than 1 bag limit at a time.
So if your camping down at Yuba for a week that doesn’t mean you can drive away with 70 perch in your possesion. But you could have 60 in your belly and 10 in your cooler. [crazy]
There have been other long talks about this if you go do a search you will find this comes up from time to time.
hope this helps
I knew it was something like that, I remember you making the post but the officer did say he could tictet you right? Even though he was wrong, didn’t he tell you, that you had to stop fishing?
I know you cant take your fish to your car and then keep fishing eating them was the issue by the way I have never fished at yuba this was just scenario that I used to try to get an accurate answer
To answer your question about Yuba in the summertime- you can cull perch in the warmer months. You can still only keep ten perch, but they do not have to be the first ten that you catch. You can catch perch all day long and turn them loose. You can also keep ten perch and continue to fish for walleye or northerns, releasing or culling any perch that you catch.
I don’t know what the fuss is all about. I can never limit out on anything so…
so then you dont have to quit when you limit out on a species?(depending on the time of year on any body of water)
The best thing you can do is keep a fishing guide in your vehicle. Read the specific regulations for that body of water before you start fishing. There will be cases that fall under “when you have a limit of one species you are done”, but that is not a general rule. It’s confusing when they manage each body of water differently, especially when they manage a single body of water differently throughout the year. It makes it that much more important for each angler to be proactive and know the regulations. There are just too many nuances for general questions.
agreed!!! I had to go find my proc in the truck earlier today. lol
Any fish that doesn’t meet the size, bag or
species rules for the water you’re fishing
must be returned to the water immediately.
Copied from the Utah 2009 Fishing Guidebook, aka proclamation. Emphasis added.
There is a specific exception to this rule when fishing Yuba or Deer Creek reservoir. The first 10 perch you catch must be kept, and cannot be released. Any other time, or any other water, you can continue to fish when you have a limit. Even if you catch a species which you already possess a bag limit of. If your example of lake trout at Bear Lake were correct, you could never fish Bear Lake. You might catch a Bear Lake Cutthroat trout that had all of it’s fins (including the adipose fin) intact. The possession limit on those is zero. Therefore you cannot keep any of them. If you reel one in, you would be in violation of the bag limit if you kept it. The regulation cited above allows you to release said fish unharmed, and not be in violation. The same could be said for Tiger Muskies. You cannot keep them, but you can catch more than your limit (0) provided you release them.
thank you fishermn. I think that answers my questions. I just wont keep anymore fish unless forced to by the DWR. (one exception TASTY WALLEYE only the ones under 18 inch or so though.) let the beasts go breed!! and be caught over and over again.
I knew it was something like that, I remember you making the post but the officer did say he could tictet you right? Even though he was wrong, didn’t he tell you, that you had to stop fishing?
He never said he could ticket me that i recall. All they said was that i was at my daily bag limit and therefore i could no longer fish. I asked him about whitefish and cisco and he could not answer that. That is why i was so upset when it all happened. I still don’t have the answer about the whole thing.