Utah lake 10/7

Hit up utah lake again. We fishd the same place we caught 51 White bass and one walleye 10 days ago. I cast / trolled lucky craft, thin fins, rapala’s, and cotton cordell walleye deep divers. I caught 0 SMB, O LMB, O white bass, 0 walleye and 0 blue gill. However I did catch a three pound rock off the bottom. That made it all worth it. Tube Dude I tested your theory, “the walleye might be more active with cooler water”. I’m sure TD would have caught some. Good luck

P.S. the water temp 10 days ago was 71 degrees. today is was 68. Huge drop, and I think this played a big factor.
Plus its 4 days from a fill moon.

Andrew

:sunglasses:Sorry about your “happy” day at Jordanelle. And sorry you didn’t score at Utah Lake.


Sorry to disappoint you but I do not have tight connections with the dieties that help me catch more fish. Gotta work it out on every trip.


First of all, this is a tough time of year for all anglers and all species. The transition from summer to fall to winter has the fish making adaptations and establishing new patterns. That usually requires at least a couple of days of stable conditions after a big change to let them settle down and deal with the new environment. Wind, murky water and dropping water temps all combine to put the fish in a neutral or negative mode.


Another factor is location. The place you caught all the fish last time is not always the best place to find fish on your next trip…especially if there have been changes to the conditions that existed on your last trip. Fish move around to find food or more comfortable living conditions. And some species are constantly on the move. The only thing that keeps them in one area is either lots of food or more comfortable water temps.


One of my favorite sayings is “Ya cain’t ketch 'em where they ain’t.” Seems simple enough. You gotta locate fish before you can expect to catch any. But the followup to that is “Findin’ 'em ain’t no gayrontee that you gonna ketch 'em.” That is especially true with walleyes. You can be fishing in the middle of a huge school of them and not get a mere inquiry. They are like cats. They do what they want, how they want and when they want.


This time of year can be double frustrating. You can catch fish one day and blank the next…even while fishing the same stuff in the same place. And even worse, you can see lots of fish on sonar so you know they are there. Sometimes I hate sonar.


The good news is that the flip side is also true. You can fish for hours without a tug and then suddenly the fish gods flip the switch and you can fill the boat. Either the fish move into the zone or they suddenly get on a feeding binge. Don’t question it. Just go with it and be grateful.


This is the time of year I sometimes stray from my normal routine of fishing early mornings. If I want to catch fish during colder weather I might delay my arrival on the water until late afternoon…after the sun has warmed it up a few degrees during the day. Walleyes are often active at daybreak but will be even more so in that “magic hour” just as the sun is going down. If they aren’t hitting during the day they will likely get with it right at sundown. I have had some barnburner hours at that time over the years…both on Willard and Utah Lake.


White bass are likely to bite all during the day and especially after the sun hits the water in the morning. This time of year they really move around, looking for pockets of small fry from this years spawn…baby bluegills, crappies, catfish, carp and even their own young…which are now about 4" long but still get eaten by larger whities. They don’t stay in one place long and are constantly looking for rocks and aquatic vegetation where tasty young morsels might be hiding out. Back in harbors can be good places to look for them.


So, before you jump off your tacklebox, start planning your next trip around the weather. When you can see a few days of warming temps and calm conditions you can be more optimistic and finding and catching fish.


A long range forecast I watched on TV recently projected that our area would have a warmer and drier fall/early winter than normal. If that happens we can count on some good fishing ahead. If not…well, that’s just Utah…and typical weather forecasting.


One last thing. As the water temps drop you will do far better on plastics and feather jigs rather than hardbaits. When the fishes’ metabolism slows down they won’t move as far or as fast to munch a lure. Use light heads on big plastics to slowly creep the plastics through the pokey fishes’ living room. Use light and sensitive rods and stay tuned for very light bites. This is when the finesse fishermen take over and catch most of the fish. “Washing” crankbaits is not your best option. You can still catch the occasional fish on them but you will do far better with plastic presentations.

Thanks TD as always very good advice. One more question. What do you think about the full moon. I usualy try to stay at least five days away from it but that makes 10 days of no fishing. How does UL fair on a full moon?

:sunglasses:Depends on who you talk to. The guy who fishes the wrong stuff in the wrong place will blame the moon for his poor results. But it is strange that there are always a few guys who find the fish and catch a few…no matter what the moon conditions.


There is no denying that nocturally feeding species take advantage of a bright moon to feed at times. But that usually happens more during the summer, when the water is warm and the fish are more active at night anyway. It also varies with the clarity of the water. Sight feeding fish do better on bright nights when the water is clear but tend to feed more during the day when the visibility is poor.


Utah Lake is a big shallow pond that is seldom clear enough for nighttime sight feeding. But walleyes, catfish and other habitually noctural feeders don’t need bright light and clear water. They do just fine with their sensitive lateral lines and superior night vision…and senses of smell. When UL is in an ugly condition the fish have to forage as if it were the middle of the night anyway.


The best time to go fishing is whenever you can get away…full moon or not. I have had some of my best trips during your so called “10 day waiting period”…for all species on all waters. And I have also had some less than stellar trips during those same periods. But I tend to look for more REAL reasons for poor fishing than to blame the poor old moon. Fish respond to a lot of stimuli…positive and negative. On any given trip there can be a whole range of factors either working for or against you.


We anglers tend to take all the credit for catching a lot of fish…but start pointing fingers elsewhere when things don’t go so good. Just remember, whenever you point a finger of blame there are three more fingers pointing right back at you.

I have hit and miss with full moons, but agree with TD, except for Trout on the rivers. With a full moon they eat at night. Doesn’t mean you won’t catch them during the day, just means you have to key in on when they will feed again. I have fished Trout lakes that the bite wasn’t on till say 11 a.m. or 2 p.m.
I do think it effects the fish in one way or another, but I agree with TD about not letting it detour you.
This is great explanation, but I really like the last paragraph.

http://www.electricbluefishing.com/eb_sub_menu/moon_fishing.htm