Renegade at Lindon

:sunglasses:**Tarponjim bought hisself a new Assault from Dave Scadden. Wants to sell his Renegade. I expressed interest if’n I could get a test ride first. Flygoddess was kind enough to allow me temporary custody of her Renny so I tricked it out with PVC and put it on the water at Lindon this morning. **


LloydE and Parrmark showed up to laugh at the funny old man trying to launch a new craft for the first time. Ha. I got the last laugh. Got more and bigger fish too. Ha.


It was a bit of a “challenge” rigging up the new ride for the first time. But I took it slow and systematically and got it all together in reasonable amount of time (about a half hour). That was with a whole lot more PVC than Dave Scadden ever intended to be on one of his craft. And Joni will probably hear it whimpering when it gets back home. I loaded it up. But it worked very well.


The Renegade is a great hybrid between a large open front float tube and a pontoon. It is advertised as a “frameless” pontoon…and has a closed rear end like a big float tube. But it sits in the water and rides like the best of both worlds. Large load capacity but the “rocker” design allows for easy propulsion with either fins or the oars…which are mounted with a “rack and pinion” system. I only used the fins briefly today, just to check them out and make sure everything cleared.


I fabbed a super PVC motor mount (what else) for my 40# thrust Minnkota. Worked perfectly. More push than with the float tube because it rides higher in the water and does not plow it.


I made a PVC base so I could mount the modular and removable rod holders and tool rack from my float tube. They were secured to the Renegade using the tie down straps for the big side pockets.
Again, worked perfectly.


The only two “issues” I had were with my rigid apron and with my fish basket. After a short time on the water I have figured out what I need to do to make it dunky hory.


Fishing? Yeah, we done some of that too. Got a grundle of tiny tyke white bass just before daybreak under the lights off the end of the ramp. Spread those amongst our group to use for bait later. Didn’t really need them. We caught grundles more everywhere we went. A good spawn year for whities evidently and all the predators are dining well.


Was dismayed to find absolutely no water flow at the bubbleup. Nary a stray bubble. Lots of scattered white bass though. Only trouble was that most of them were aggravating little dinksters. I partially remedied that problem by upsizing. I caught some bigger fish on crankbaits. But, as you can see in one of the pics, the bitty whities also found a way to impale themselves on it.


**I then started throwing a tandem rig with two 3" twisters on 1/8 oz. heads. Constant tap tap tap from the little whities, with an occasional CHOMP from the bigger ones. Every once in a while I would bring it through a school of bigger fish and get doubles in the 11" - 13" range. **


I dragged around a small dead whitie on a bait rod while casting for the white bass. Had numerous “inquiries”. Some turned out to be other white bass…eating their young. Some paid the price. Others were cats. Caught 3…not quite enough for a smoker load. Others??? Not sure. I had one giganto fisho on for a few head shakes and then brought in the head and part of the body of my white bass bait…cut cleanly across the body. JAWS? I was already in a bigger boat.


All of us were catching plenty of white bass but I was the only one who scored any kitties. Parrmark had to leave in late morning for a prior commitment. LloydE headed in about 1 and I bagged it shortly thereafter. I didn’t get any more bites after I left the bubbleup…and I worked both white bass and minnows for quite a ways before deciding to get it up on plane and head for the harbor. Well…didn’t exactly get it up on plane, but that Renegade does move much faster than my Fat Cat with the same power.


Water levels are dropping a bit…about 2 1/2 feet down from the high water mark. Water temps ranged from 66 to almost 70. Still staying up there. Good clarity in the water today too…at least for Utah Lake. Calm all day. Only a slight ripple on the water a couple of times. Tough duty.

Excellent report, sir. Too bad that dadgum flow was non-existent but fish were still hanging out. Very cool.

Sounds like the Renegade could be a viable option especially in the “get to the fishing hole fast” department. Any other pros/cons that you discovered while afloat?

I was chomping at the bit to get out there today. Weather was just right for an awesome day of fishing. Maybe I’ll make it out tomorrow morning or Saturday. Looks like a blast even if the kitties don’t play well.

I hit the Bubble Up at around three today. Caught tons of pretty big whities, but just like you said the nibbles from the baby bass were non-stop! Still fun though and very possible to weed through them.

Oh man by the sounds of things the Whities remain “turned on” so to say. Maybe I need to re-visit Utah Lake as I have not been there since early July.

So is the “bubble up area” hard to paddle to on a pontoon? I rarely play on that side of the lake myself.

I have been missing the white bass fry. My twin didn’t share his Jordan river beauties with me a week or two ago.[frown] Oh man I had to drool while he made fish sandwiches (bacon bits, lettuce, mayo, panko white bass, onions, pepper jack cheese on a toasted bun).

You had better not feed me those kitties from Utah Lake when I come over. I will sue you! (just kidding). Thanks for the kick ass posts as usual!!!

Good looking set up!! Can you still use the oars? Are you sold, and is that what we are going to be seeing you using out on the water?
Great job!!

:sunglasses:**Sometime later today I will be posting up a pictorial review on the Float Tubing board. I took a lot of pictures (surprise) while putting together the component pieces. And I really put everything through the TD testing process. **


Lots of positives. Only a few negatives. And there are potential “workarounds” on the downers.


In a nutshell…great load capacity and level float, higher off the water (than a tube) but not too high for me (like a pontoon). Seat is basically comfy but needs proper adjustment. Footbar is far to short for big people to be able to row while using it. Pockets are TOO BIG…and the double zippers are a pain…and the rigid (insulated) sides are more negative than positive. But, the strap-down aspect of the pockets is what makes it possible to attach the PVC frames. Recognize this setup?


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Hey TD that sure is a real purty rig!
Sure looks alot more roomy than the tube. Has me thinking about next years toon for me. So did all that fit in your SUV? Or did it have to ride on top?

“So is the “bubble up area” hard to paddle to on a pontoon? I rarely play on that side of the lake myself.”

:sunglasses:It is probably about a half mile south of the harbor. I used to kick there and back all the time in my tube before I got motorized. Yesterday Parrmark launched his float tube about a half hour before I launched my craft and he beat me to the bubbleup. And LloydE was in his pontoon…using mostly his oars.

On a nice calm day it is easy. Trying to beat your way back against a north wind can be “problematic”.

Good looking set up!! Can you still use the oars? Are you sold, and is that what we are going to be seeing you using out on the water?
Great job!!

:sunglasses:Definitely a place for a Renegade in my arsenal…and my storage area. But it will not entirely replace the Fat Cat. There are still times and places where I will opt for the smaller craft. There ain’t no law that says you can only have one kinda fishing machine. Heck, this is Utah. Plural marriages happen all the time. Ask Warren Jeffs.


As I designed and fitted the PVC goodies for the Renegade I carefully measured everything against the space needed for rowing…and stowing the folded oars…as seen in the pics below.


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:sunglasses:I have carried fully loaded pontoons on my Blazer before. Properly secured, they ride well for “average” runs to a nearby venue. But for longer runs I deflate them before either stuffing them inside or strapping them to the top.


For yesterday’s trip I mostly deflated the Renegade and stripped off all the goodies before folding and stuffing it into my vehicle. It layed flat and left plenty of room for all my other gear. I will be doing a more complete review (with pics) on the tubing board later today.


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Now that this thread is unlocked I can reply…

Yep, I do recognize that setup and it is one I have come to love. As far as JAWS eating your white bass, I’m going with Northern Pike. I contacted Drew Cushing to find out more about Northern Pike in Utah Lake. Seems like you told me once that Northerns were stocked years ago but one hadn’t been seen since a gill-net survey in the mid 90s. I could be lying. Anywho, I haven’t heard back from Drew yet. Let’s go with a pike…hopefully you won’t have to attach yellow barrels to your bait rig to get JAWS to tire and come to the surface.
[;)]

Great Early Fall/Late Summer report. UL has changed a bit…and I am getting ready for ice up…yeah, I know still a bit early, but I can still dream[fishin]. That new ride is awesome! and it looks like you will have much more space for customizations.

:sunglasses:Just got this picture from the DWR (Department of Wild Replies). It is a picture of the rare but vicious saber-toothed catfish.


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I was going to save this little bit of inspiration for my own post (not to be out done by others "Photoshop fish stories), but with all the references to “Jaws” I simply could not resist.

Since he’d never experienced it, I’d hoped to get my brother on some white bass action. We had to really look for 'em, but I finally found a school. The water was quite murky, and my usual pony head jig was getting hit, but not hooking. I figured the bass were singles and spread out and their aim was off. So I scaled down a bit and went with black. And as others are fond of saying “It was like somebody flipped a switch” and we started catching.

100 + bass later, I wanted to get my bro on a channel cat and let him experience a real tug at his line. So, we boated over to see what was happening with Pat and hopefully gain some intel, and see his new arsenal of fish destruction in action. I wasn’t sure if this was him, but they seemed to be struggling a bit… This may confirm you story of that bass getting bit in half. [:p]

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I shouted “don’t go out in the water!!!” as I saw some teenagers and a film crew headed out for a joy ride. I’m not sure if they all returned… [sly]

Anyway, after learning that Pat found some kitties at 6’, we tried near the bubble up and as my brother said “Fishing like this is like putting tin foil on your head and hoping to get struck by lightning…” So, I found some reeds farther north with water about the same depth and we had some success with a few nice size kitties.

Good to see you out on the water Pat! And thanks for the advice. And boy, I’m going to need to get a faster boat if I’m going to keep up with you on the new craft. You really can move around well with that! :sunglasses:

Cheers everyone.

:sunglasses:Good to see you and your brother out there too Roger. But you either listen poorly or I give poor directions. I kept telling you to fish just south of the outside buoys but you anchored in much shallower water. I saw you leaving so figured you had either got your limit…or had your limit.


Sure was a purty day for fishin’ anyway. Glad you guys had plenty of action.


I also did better on the black and chartreuse plastic than on most of the other colors. Black is almost always a good color when UL is dingy. It will come into its own as a walleye color in the next few weeks. Lots of guys fish only with black, black and chartreuse or dark smoke and chartreuse. The dark and contrasting colors show up better when visibility is poor…and/or when the water is cooler.


By the way…YOU GOT MAIL. Postage due.