Refresher course on stream access

Sorry in advance if this question has been answered before, many times.?
With all the ups and downs, ins and outs, back and forth, etc. just thought I’d review where we are now. I’ll give a specific example to help with an answer. I want to fish the Weeb. above Coaville and I find a no trespassing sign on a fence line. Can I access the river at a public access or bridge and walk in on the high water mark, if not what if I keep “feet wet”?
If not any of these ways, I guess my only alternative is to get permission from the property owner if I can find a source and spend the the time to research, etc.[frown]

depends on where above coalville but get permission first. unless you are accessing it via an anglers easment there are alot of them up there.

I guess I don’t understand the answer.[frown] As I said I access a fishermen’s ladder/public access, can I continue into an area that is shown to be private property/no trespassing by one of the methods described or no. They’re a lot of areas that have roads crossing the river with no trespassing signs on one side or another by the river and I could access by one or more of the methods I suggested??? So can I legally or not?

ok if you access from an easment and walk up or down river and come to a fence, that means you have come to private property and can no longer go that way… that make more sense?

Gotcha, thanks. :slight_smile:

Where as your constitutional rights state that as long as you are IN the water or High Water mark, you should be able to go as far as you would like. Thank the Utah Government through lies and deception for that.[:/]

And here we are the very few who are pissed/angry about it. tel est la vie/such is life. Any hope? In Utah, I don’t think so.[frown][frown][frown][frown] They’re just ain’t enough of us. :angry:

yes there is hope

March 10. 2010

2SHB 141

43 Yea

28 Nay

No you can not trespass.

That 19 month window is closed, likely forever.

I think Koch means we are still fighting. The vote to me means nothing because they are voting for something they have no right to. It is our constitutional right. I think the landowners got it…but Utah Government doesn’t own it…WE do. When it does get right, there could be a major pay back fee[;)]

Maybe they will change the name of the Weber river to the Zuccottie Park river.

Huh?

That was the finally tally for HB141 but like Koch says “There Hope”, Currently the Stream Access Coalition has filed TWO LAWSUITS

THE FIRST ONE in in Heber City’s 4th District Court against a landowner along the Upper Provo River, has filed a motion asking Judge Pullan for a summary judgment, declaring the law unconstitutional.

The case names ATC Realty Sixteen Inc. as defendant. That California-based entity owns a real estate development in Wasatch County called Victory Ranch

THE SECOND ONE

Filed a second lawsuit to restore public access to Utah’s rivers and streams. The suit, filed in state court in Summit County, seeks confirmation of the navigability and public ownership of the bed of the Weber River, one of Utah’s premier canoeing and kayaking streams, and a publicly-funded blue ribbon trout fishery. The suit contends that the Weber is a “navigable river” because it has long served as a highway for public commerce and recreation. The Coalition has amassed a large body of historical evidence showing that the Weber and many other waters in Utah have been used extensively for log drives and other commercial purposes since before Utah’s statehood.

FYI: Lawsuits are not cheap and require funding These laws effect every angler past and present Please even if its only a dollar please help donate what you can.

http://utahstreamaccess.org/usac-wp/donate/

Sorry in advance if this question has been answered before, many times.?
With all the ups and downs, ins and outs, back and forth, etc. just thought I’d review where we are now. I’ll give a specific example to help with an answer. I want to fish the Weeb. above Coaville and I find a no trespassing sign on a fence line. Can I access the river at a public access or bridge and walk in on the high water mark, if not what if I keep “feet wet”?
If not any of these ways, I guess my only alternative is to get permission from the property owner if I can find a source and spend the the time to research, etc.[frown]

Straight simple answer, NO.
Posted is posted as it stands now. You are tresspassing if you go past a posted sign in the stream or on the land.
You may float, that right was not taken away, but you may not stop or touch land other than to portage by the most direct possible path around man made obstructions.

Leaky, you are receiving a little misinformation. There is an access easement on the Weber section from Echo to Rockport. Only real exceptions that I’m aware of are the Campers World area right at the Coalville exit and near the Chicken Inn near Wanship. As mentoned just make sure you enter at a Sportmans access point. I’ve walked most the 13 or mile section I’m speaking of and have never come across any problems.

I have found this link to be useful to me personally:
http://wildlife.utah.gov/maps/stream_access/

I also refer to the Utah Fishing Guidebook which states:
[#221e1f]
New stream access law
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[#221e1f][#221e1f]In 2010, the Utah Legislature passed H.B. 141: Recreational Use of Public Water on Private Property. The new law changed the recreational easement that allowed the public to walk on the private bed of a river, stream or lake.
The new law does not allow recreational water users (including anglers, kayakers, tubers, hunters and others) to walk on the private bed of a river, stream or lake. This means that if you are fishing or recreating in public water that flows over private property closed to trespass, you may not walk on the land beneath the water without obtaining landowner permission.
The new law does allow you to float on the surface of the water, even if you’re floating over private property that is closed to trespass. It also allows you to fish while floating.

Trespassing information is on page 10 and 11.
You can download the Guidebook from: http://wildlife.utah.gov/dwr/fishing/guidebooks/401-2011-fishing-guidebook.html[/#221e1f][/#221e1f]

Easement or not, you go onto posted land and you can be ticketed for it. You may prevail in court, you may not and have to appeal to prevail.
Either way it will cost you time and money.

Where can I find a copy of this easment you speak of?

off Judd lane there is a 2 mile (might be shorter) section that is private also, well posted as well. but if you ask they typically let you fish on it.

So who do you ask? Send me a pm if best.:slight_smile:

Campers World area right at the Coalville exit and near the Chicken Inn near Wanship. As mentoned just make sure you enter at a Sportmans access point. I’ve walked most the 13 or mile section I’m speaking of and have never come across any problems.

I fish that section regularly most of that section is Private Land but the majority of land owners have cooperatives with the DWR’s walk in access program hence the A frames over the bob wired fences.

The section down past campers world past the freeway bridge and the chalk creek sections are the one’s you need to be careful those section are private and require land owner permission.