Is there a place that these reports can be viewed?
I love to fish at Pelican but I’m not much of a fish eater. Now that I know about this study I’m more than willing to start keeping some fish to help out and maybe others that don’t know any better and would change their minds also.
I’m just spitballing here but would it be possible or plausible to maybe add a link to the fishing report page to make a quick note of survey findings and maybe a recommendation to harvest to help improve the health of the fishery?
I would also love this kind of information to help me decide which lakes and which species to harvest.
I’m all for C&R where it’s necessary but I love fresh fish from Utah lakes. Knowing where Harvest will help the fishery would sway my decisions about those trips.
I often make assumptions based on what I’m catching that I freely admit are WAG based on my experience and nothing else. (i.e. I catch so many 10-12"-ish SMB in Deer Creek there’s no way taking a bunch home will be missed).
I personally differ to the science when available however.
I indicated that we have some preliminary age/growth from Pelican Lake and that it looks like Pelican is suffering from an extreme lack of harvest. The bass and bluegill are out of balance…1:1 instead of 1:8 and we are finding 9 year old largemouth to be 9.5 inches long. They look healthy in all other regards except they are only about 1/2 as long as they should be. ALL of the year classes that we have looked at so far from Pelican are looking the same, 1/2 the length they should be. We have taken scales from smallmouth bass from Jordanelle Reservoir that we will age this winter. Right now we have now idea what age the various smallmouth bass are but we soon will have that information.
Bravo on these studies. I can’t wait for the results.
I don’t know about you but in the last five years I have only been checked one time in Utah..Now think how many times you have been checked..
Creel survey??? Are you for reel??
Doesn’t that depend on where you fish, and whether or not a survey is being done?
I was checked EVERY TIME I fished Minersville this year. However, I was never checked while fishing Newcastle. Ironically, the DWR was conducting a survey at Minersville, but they weren’t at Newcastle. Coincidence?
Cliff – do you harvest any bass? I’m not pointing my finger at you – I’m just curious.
At one time, the Provo River had this same issue and discussion. Too many small fish. Anglers screaming for a slot to protect those mid-sized fish so that they could grow to be big. Problem: NOBODY was harvesting ANY fish. What good is a slot if nobody harvests those fish out of the slot?
There is no good for a slot in that sense but this is merely the concept of hegemony operating on a sociological level. People are brainwashed by the ideology of catch and release so they see killing a bass as worse than killing their child. They refuse to kill any bass then see it as a moral sin, and are angered and shocked when others kill a bass. They lobby for reg changes and then force their views and morals to be imposed on everyone around them through voice, power, and money spend to lobby for regulations that will support their ideology. Therefore what you have in end result is limitation of individual freedom and autonomy to even eat a fish! Further there are a bunch of lakes with stunted overpopulated bass and blue ribbon rivers full of tiny 6 inch trophy brown with fungus all over their backs. But some people aren’t open to education. You can’t teach a guy who is closed minded. You simply set rules and regs according to biology and ignore what the public says lol. Especially when you don’t really hear from the public at large. You only hear from certain elitist groups on these regs and meetings.
Closed mind??
Many other states have slots that are working great and some only so so…Slots are set up for every one, the ones who want to keep some can (under 14 -over20) they keep bigger bass for all to catch and release and for anyone that may one day want to catch one over 20" it can work for them as well..
It helps to have less small fish and gives us more large ones..
What more could you want from a lake???
What are you wanting to do to change things???
To say slots don’t work is wrong they are working all over the country ..
I thought one of the rules on this forum was not to personally attack a member who has an opinion that may differ from your own!Cliff made a statement to the effect he never hears about the meetings and then Dale offers proof of the hypocrisy of that statement. This is an all to common occurrence on these boards. You’ll just have to take it on faith that Dale (a moderator) knows what the rules are and hasn’t broken any in this case.
I did find out about the RAC meeting and I went to a few of them not just the ones close to SLC…
But I still do not see in any of the posts you show where it says Sportsman is having or had a meeting..And that is past this is now, so what are you getting at or trying to say???
A golden oldie thread! I was previously thinking of the incident below while reading the more recent thread.
One last thing, I do have to agree with FFL that there was one comedic property to last nights meeting. It was when Bassrods was vociferously giving Drew Cushing an earful in the hallway while the meeting was ongoing. (maybe it wasn’t funny to Mr. Cushing) I could hear Cliff from outside about as well as the speakers at the podium. It’s all good.
Why do I think that history would repeat itself if certain folks were on the proposed planning committees.
The point is that these meetings were advertised and not some big tongue-in-cheek secret….and YOU were invited. Also, the point was that you have seen that some of these meetings have taken place, yet YOU decided not to show up. And, I am NOT talking about RAC meetings!
But, to help you find where it talks about the meeting at Sportsman’s, I will quote that section for you:
"Northern Utah
May 25 - Logan, Al’s Sporting Goods from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. (Al’s Annual Outdoor Expo happens that day. DWR biologists will be available at a table at the expo.)
May 29 - Riverdale, Sportsman’s Warehouse from 6-8 p.m."
Truthfully, I hope that you don’t show up to these kinds of meetings based on your behavior in other public meetings….but, that is just me!
zman2 — Please don’t put these dates on your calendar. They were for last year’s open houses and RAC meetings. (This discussion thread was revived from last year.) This year’s meetings have not been scheduled yet. As soon as I receive the dates from our fisheries personnel, I’ll share them here and put them on the Division’s web calendar. Thanks!
Amy Canning
Communications Specialist
Utah Division of Wildlife Resources
It’s all good.