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Hate to beat this thing to death (pun unintended) but I’m starting to wonder how restricted we are going to be. I get the thing about the county waters being limited but there appears to be even more restrictions coming. I have a son (Utah County) who spent the weekend shed hunting in Garfield County. He and some of his friends from his work place were camped in a remote area about one hour out from Blanding when they were confronted by a Garfield County Sheriff who told them to leave asap inasmuch as they were not residents of the county. He produced some kind of health advisory document that had just been adopted that prohibited non-county residents from recreating in Garfield County. If other counties or Gov Herbert enact something similar state wide it will impact more than just a restriction on county ponds. I never thought the C-19 bug would significantly impact our non-spectator sport of fishing but who knows where this thing is going??

I’m willing to do my part to get this virus under control but I sure hope it does not advance to the point where even fishing is prohibited. Will someone please tell me I am wrong and assure me they will not take my fishing away.

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Well it won’t impact me much cuz I fish mostly in Utah Lake. It’s gonna be tough on Tube Dude cuz I won’t be able to continue to tutor him in cattin’. :wink:

I agree this C-19 stuff is pretty bad and we all need to do our part to head it off. Hopefully we can beat this thing and get back to normal soon.

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They just closed all NF in Oregon and Washington. Their governors are total dirt bags but if all of those people show up in a few weeks we are screwed.

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I remember a statement in one of the Star Wars Movies, the one where the Sith Emperor got power.

The phrase, as I remember it, is ‘I always wondered how freedom would end, I see it is with thunderous applause’!

I understand Bob’s concerns, and others, but I also try to put things in perspective. I have a strong background in medicene, a super strong background in Science, a very long background in engineering and “Government Project Management” so I know the “drill”.

I will not pontificate on the subject, but I will tell you that the truth when Government speaks is almost always somewhere in the middle.

I fear that my understanding of the problem is better then what is being reported. I have told my wife, who is not at all interested in my graphs, sketches, diagrams and predictions. She nevertheless is now convinced that I am right, and we are being mislead, on both extremes.

To make it clear, I do not have inside information, do not have contacts, only many years of history inside the swamp.

My suggestions are as a president I respected once said, “Trust, but verify”. Check your facts, then check the fact check sources, then check the fact check sources that you used to check the fact check sources. All lie, or mislead, as necessary to support their side of the story.

Let’s just not let ourselves repeat the “ficticous” phrase from the Star Wars Movie.

Be safe, but don’t be stupid my friends.

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a lil jim harrison all up in this thread couldnt hurt

“The head’s a cloud anchor that the feet must follow. Travel light, he said, or don’t travel at all.”

“Wherever we go we do harm, forgiving
ourselves as wheels do cement for wearing
each other out. We set this house
on fire, forgetting that we live within.

“The world that used to nurse us
now keeps shouting inane instructions.
That’s why I ran to the woods.”

attempt to stay safe out there

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Here is one morons perspective. These one size fits all rules and generalizations get us nowhere!!! What New York needs isn’t what will be needed in Boise Idaho. What needs to happen in SLC doesn’t need to happen in Callao Utah. I live and ranch in a very remote part of our state. I HAVE to be out and about to care for my Livestock. I make a weekly trip into civilization to pick up supplies for elderly neighbors. My family is used to shopping once a month so our grocery needs are minimal. But some of my older neighbors MUST have prescriptions and things. Delivery simply isn’t an option. I take as many precautions as I can. I wash my hands 100 times a day. I use hand sanitizer. I avoid crowds and maintain social distancing. But I WILL not watch my neighbors go without or suffer. How is this any different than avoiding someone with the flu or pneumonia??? I understand that we don’t know who has it and has been exposed and we do not have a vaccine. But if folks need medicine and can’t get it, that’s a death sentence too. No wonder the extreme death rates and transmission rates are in huge cities. People live in tiny spaces and are jammed together like ants. It will run rampant through those populations. And yet the CDC data still shows only 8% have to receive medical help. 92% don’t even go to the doctor. AND RECOVER! We have to protect the venerable members of our population. Folks who have lessened immune systems and the elderly. But government over reach and stupidly usually makes problems much worse, i.e. Katrina. If people used common sense we wouldn’t need the feds or state to mandate broad rules that only fit a few of its citizens. I hope you all stay healthy and are able to come out the other side of this fine. Please learn from this. Be better prepared for the next one, because it will happen. We all need to live within our means, plan the best we can for the unknown and make preparations to care for ourselves and families in trying times. God Blesss and happy trails.

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Bob, I just think that you are all too willing to give up freedom for security, and will end up with neither. You started this and I felt it was imperitive that we have some balance.

Do you know that the government is now tracking our cell phones to see how far we are traveling from home and determining what is essential travel? At this time, I suspect it is group tracking, not specific tracking, but it is being done. The graph results were posted today on FOX. It is a pretty small step to track each of us individually.

PS, those were real news reports from several of the drive by media yesterday, not rumors.

Sources, 1) KSL, 2) KSL, 3) CDC.

We don’t agree that most people that want to protect themselves have firearms. We do agree that they probably won’t be safer with firearms that they don’t even know how to use this late in the game. IMHO your HO is wrong.

And while I would love to rebut each topic, I think the point is already made. Yes, I am comparing the virus today with 100 years ago, because until we have a vaccine, we are no better off. Even with Trump’s push to remove the red tape, we still likley won’t have it ready for next year. I do hope I am wrong on the time line. If the two test being done now on current vaccines work, and we don’t have sufficient evidence yet to believe it will, then the only real treatment is for us to all catch it to get the antibodies. We are not even sure how many lives that would cost, but it would be horrific.

The point is that neither of us are belittling each other, we just don’t agree with each other on the specifics. I am sure that I am right, and I suspect that you are equally sure that you are right.

So, here is my HOPE. My hope is that freedom is NOT LOST. My hope is that Governments and political parties will learn to work together and use crisis to take advantage. My hope is that one day you and I can meet at the shore and shake each other’s hand, without so much fear that we have to stand 6’ or more away. My hope is that at 77, you don’t need to spend your last year in lockdown. You are right, the Governor of Utah has made “suggestions”, not “orders” as of today. Counties are not as limited in their scope. But, I know of no threats, like Washington DC, to lock up people that violate the Stay At Home order.

Be well Bob, be well everyone, and be safe. We can disagree and still like each other.

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My hope is that Strawberry rez opens up before 2020 winter comes…

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And this just in:

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wife says “oh you can go fishin dont plan on come home”
a lot
some tecnically a being a “homeless” fisherman is nothing new to me
the locks aint changed yet but hows barney fifes gonna know that or prove that?
neither is actually being homeless and having to live in a car, friends couches or jobsites for a period of my life
i cant rember much of the first 3 but the other 52 involved fishing and will continue till the end of the line