Bankin' at Pineview 11-17-08

Man, that tiger shot is a great pic! And those Crappie had some shoulders on them.
You like that 3rd dot on the front of the nose of that ultra minnow?
I fished with a dropper over the weekend and had a hard time with the top, smaller fly wrapping around the line and causing tangles. Maybe, I had too much line of the top fly.

:sunglasses:Keen eyes, my friend. I put an extra dot of color either on the nose or near the tail of most of the jigs that I make with glow. Makes it easier to differentiate at a glance…instead of having to cup them in your hand and see if they glow in the dark. Apparently it does not scare off the fish.


**Rigging droppers could probably be the subject of a pretty lengthy writeup. There are a ton of different options. **


1. Standard dropshot. Simply use a Palomar knot to attach your dropper hook directly to the line. Good from the perspective of avoiding tangles and also provides instant “feel” when a fish hits the dropper.


2. Blood knot dropper. Good for creating a dropper of several inches to a foot or more in length. Best for cast and retrieve or trolling…with flies or lures that will not spin and tangle. Also good for fishing tandem jigs when making short to moderate casts…and the twists can come out after each cast.


3. Surgeon’s loop knot. Almost as good as a standard dropshot, but extra length is easy by lengthening the loop when you tie it. Also allows you to change flies or lures by using the loop to run through the hook eye, etc. You can also clip one side of the loop where it comes out of the knot and have a single line dropper. Pretty much the same as a blood knot.


4. 3 way swivel. Not as good for finesse fishing, with light tackle and finicky fish. Extra hardware, etc. But, great for trolling flies or lures that might twist. Also good for fishing heavy tackle down deep for big fish…or for “chuck and chance it” bait fishing.


5. Small crane swivel. I use these small swivels…the kind I use for making Roadrunner jigs…to help reduce tangles. I tie the main line to the top ring and both the long and short leaders to the bottom ring. That way, when they twist, they do not tangle the main line and easily untwist themselves. Good rig for fishing tandem jigs for larger fish…like walleyes or wipers. A stronger connection than a blood knot. Less likely to break if you get a double hookup.


**I usually carry an extra spool of the same kind of line I have on my reels, just for making blood knot droppers. Saves a lot on the main line if you don’t keep shortening it to make droppers. **


I don’t have any exact formula for lengths of dropper leaders but I usually use something around 4" or less for vertical jigging…6" for small tandem jigs…8"-12" for larger tandem jigs. You want enough line to let the jig work, but not so much that you miss strikes by not feeling the fish. You also want enough like to allow the fly or jig to work, but not so much that it tangles easily. That is all a balance of size, weight, length of line, stiffness of line, etc. Sometimes takes a few casts to determine just what will work best.



Ha! that’s funny it’s a mark for the fisherman! I was thinking, “I wonder why he wants a 3rd dot on the head, what’s he imitating?”

I typically will use the surgeons loop when I have a dropper that will have line coming off the main line and a palomar knot for the ol’ hook on the line rigging. I think I had too much line out from my top rig to be vertical jigging. I’m the type of guy/fisherman that doesn’t vary my approach very much.

Great posts as usual. I never have tasted crappie. How do you rate them compared bass? I’ve eaten bass & bluegill and could take them or leave them. I love perch, walleye and cats.

:sunglasses:Man, that is a very generalized question with a lot of variables in the answer. But, I’ll try.


First, crappies are widely considered to be some of the best eating fish in the country…compared to all others. They are easy to fillet and have very white and mild flesh…no natural “fishy” taste if properly cared for. Crappies are kinda close to perch, but not as firm. Any fish can be nasty if left too long without cleaning and cooking.


There is a difference in the quality of crappies during the year. I have found them to be best during the cold water months…especially when taken through the ice. They do not taste any different but their flesh is much firmer. During the warm months of summer they fall apart much easier when cooked…but still taste great.


Being fish of open water (mostly), crappies are seldom affected by potential water chemistry problems like fish of shallower and weedier water. Largemouth bass and bluegills often live in those environments and can pick up “flavors” that many folks don’t like…especially if there is a muddy bottom and lots of algae involved. But, when they come from clean, rocky bottom waters they are usually pretty good. Never quite as mild as the average crappie, however.


Whether or not someone “likes” any kind of fish is a very subjective thing. A good fish chef can make poor quality fish flesh taste great. A lousy cook can ruin good walleye fillets. Not easy, but possible. In short, you should understand the qualities of the fish you are going to cook and choose a recipe and method of cooking that brings out the best.


Like many fish, crappie are prime candidates for the fryer. Coat them with a batter or dry mix and cook them fast in hot oil. They are light textured so they do not take too much cooking.


Another good way to fix them is “oven broiling”. Lay the fillets in a glass or metal pan, sprinkle them with your choice of seasonings, dot them with butter (or spray with low fat butter substitute) and then either bake for about 10-15 minutes at 350 or put under the broiler until the meat is white and flakes easily. Serve them over rice or noodles and pour the pan drippings over them.


Since crappies are so fragile (comparatively), they are not good candidates for the broiler…unless you use one of those little wire baskets that allow you to turn them without using a spatula. A bit of lemon butter baste while cooking helps finish them off nicely.


**If you have a griddle, get it smoking hot and then season up your crappie fillets with some good Mexican seasoning. Cook them almost “blackening style” on each side…as quickly as possible. Then, stuff them in a taco shell with some shredded cabbage and salsa for a super fish taco. **


I also like my crappie fillets “scampi style”…simmered in garlic butter until browned lightly on each side (only turn once). Again, serve over rice or noodles and pour the pan drippings over them before eating.


Now…all you need are some crappies to experiment with. Easy, huh?

Makes my mouth water! Crappie it is.

Hey, tubedude got that crappie taste all wrong… I dont think you want to catch any and try them… lol… Here is a couple of pics of me and my dad catching some 1 3/4 lb crappies… Best eaten anytime of the day…
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Awriiight! Pat. Just the picture I got in my mind of that tiger flopping in your face caused me to all but wet myself. Damn, I wish I coulda seen it for real. Way to go.

Awriiight! Pat. Just the picture I got in my mind of that tiger flopping in your face caused me to all but wet myself. Damn, I wish I coulda seen it for real. Way to go.

:sunglasses:**Thanks Tom. Maybe I did wet myself. When wearing waders you never know whether you have a leak in the waders or it’s an “inside job”. **


Always a scary proposition to have a big fish with big teeth getting “up close and personal”…especially when you are sitting in an inflatable craft. I hate it when I have to walk back to shore.

I looked closer at that muskie pic and I think you titled it correctly (big fish little jig). I’ve had them suckers cut through 25lb. flourocarbon as soon as they hit. What pound test were you using? Congrats on getting it to the boat, er, tube :slight_smile:.

:sunglasses:I realize I was very lucky to even see the fish. Had one munch me off on the bite last trip.


I was using 6#. That same line has landed flathead catfish (with nasty rasping teeth) up to 30 pounds. Also caught lots of big cats, walleyes, smallies and wipers on it. Never had a breakoff.


**That little jig was on a size 6 hook, 1/32 oz. head and was one of my chartreuse glitter super glow jigs. You know how they glow. **