Awsome sight to see in the woods !

ya i see where you’re coming from. it’s just like fishing. people can say that you are killing fish for no reason too. It’s just a sport that has something to do with killing animals. It really doesnt hurt the population. in fact, it probably helps it in the fact that that certain species doesnt become over-populated. however, a population can be over hunted or over fished, but that is a different story.

Thanks lonehunter for opening up my mind to this subject. As a 14 year-old, I am still learning. thank you.

Joe

YESSA BUD I COULDN,T OF SAID IT BETTER FER ME IT IS THE SAME, THE TIME SHARED IN THE WOODS , I,VE DONE SINCE I WAS OLD ENOUGH TO WALK, THE PEACE THE SERENITY, THE WHOLENESS I FEEL OF GOD,S NATURE AND WHAT HE MADE FER US TO USE, TO LIVE AND DIE FOR AND TO KNOW THAT EVERYTHIN IN LIFE DOES HAVE A SEASON. AND THAT LIFE IS TO LIVE, AND TO LIVE FREE AND DIE. FREE. TO KNOW THAT I HAVE CHOICES, TO SHOOT THAT LITTLE ONE OR TO WAIT FER THE BIGGER ONE TO COME BY. WHICH I DO, BUT THAT IT,S MY CHOICE IN LIFE TO MAKE EM RIGHT WRONG OR INDIFFERENT BEIN ME. TO LEARN, OF LIFE TO MAKE MISTAKES AND LEARN FROM THEM, ALSO, IT,S A PART OF ME LIKE LONEHUNTER SAID. IT,S TRUE. FOR ME. I CHOOSE TO HUNT AND FISH. AND I,M GONNA. TO LIVE THE WAY I BELIEVE GRAMP BELEIVED MY SON TIME SHARIN WITH HIM, IF IT,S ONLY TO GO SHOOTIN IT,S CALLED TRADITION TOO. BUT I WON,LT MAKE EXCUSES TO ANYONE WHY I HUNT AND FISH, I WILL TRY TO EXPLAIN AND IT,S EITHER THEY EXCEPT ME THE WAY I AM OR THEY DON,T, I CAN,T CHANGE THEM, ALL I CAN DO IS TAKE CARE OF ME, AND MY BELIEFS BUT I WILL TRY TO HEP. IF THEY WANT IT.SO I,M TRYIN HAHAHA THERE,S DIFFERENT TIMES IN LIFE, TO WATCH THE YOUNG GROW THEN THE TEENAGE YEARS THEN THE BUCK STAGE AND THEN THE ENDIN AND NEARIN,SUFFERIN OF THE OLD, I HATE IT, TO WATCH SOMETHIN DIE LITTLE BY LITTLE IS TO O HARD FER ME TO BEAR.BUT THAT IS A PART OF LIFE TOO. EVEN IF I DON,T LIKE IT. BUT I,D RATHER PUT IT OUT OF IT,S MISERY, THAN TO LET IT SUFFER. BUT THIS IS PART OF LIFE, AND EACH PART IS TO BE CHERISHED, EVEN FER HUMAN BUT WE CAN,T PUT HUMANS DOWN, YA HAVE TO WATCH THEM GO LITTLE BY LITTLE, WHAT,S MOREHUMANE HEERE?? THAT I HAVE TROUBLE WITH! I WATCHED MA DIE, IT WASN,T FUN SHE SUFFERED ALL HER LIFE, SINCE SHE HAD ME, SO TELL ME WHAT IS MORE HUMAN.?? BUT GOD PUT THEM HERE TO USE AND WHEN YA GIT TOO MANY IN ONE AREA THEY STARVE TO DEATH AND I,D RATHER THIN EM THEN LET EM STARVE A HORRIBLE DEATH, CAUSE THEY DON,T GIT ENOUGH TO EAT,AND THEY SUFFER NO DIFFERENT THEAN A KID. HOW MANY KIDS ARE STARVIN TONITE?? AT LEAST I CAN HEP THAT DEER.HERD. ONE WILL LIVE MAYBE MORE. YA CAN,T GIT MUCH CLOSER TO NATURE THAN THAT. LOOKIN AT LIFE AS A CYCLE, AND KNOWIN THAT ONE THING EATS ANOTHER TO SURVIVE AD THEN SOSMETHIN ELSE EATS THAT ONE. RIGHT DOWN THE LINE. IS A GOOD WAY TO LOOK AT IT, MAYBE. GOD SOME HUMANS DO THAT EVERYDAY IN THE WORK PLACE HAHA BIG ONE SWALLOW UP THE LITTLE ONES BY DEGRADIN HURTIN FEELINGS ANDD POWER AND CONTROL, HAHA, BUT TRUE, SOME ANYWAYS, HAHA. I,M JUST TRYIN TO FIGURE OUT WHICH ONES I LIKE BETTER HAHA HUMAN OR MY ANIMALS HAHA I GUESS HAHA I HAVE ALWAYS LOVED VENISON SINCE I USE TO GO TO GRAMPS SINCE I WAS A KID, LEARNED TO SHOOT WITH GRAMP, AND THAT,S WHAT HE LIVED ON WAS WHAT HE GOT IN THE SEASONS. THEY COULDN,T AFFORD NOTHIN FROM THE STORES WITH THE GOVERNMENT ONLY GIVE HIM 350.00 A MONTH AND GOT SHELL SHOCKED IN THE FIRST WORLD WAR FER EM, THE ----. SO HE HAD TO DO SOMEHTIN TO SURVIE AND I LEARNED THAT FROM HIM YOUNG, TO SURVIVE. HE TAUGHT ME HOW. WELL! WELL I GUESS I,VE SAID ENOUGH ON THIS SUBJECT BUT I GUESS IT,S MY WAY OF LOOKIN AT WHO I AM WHAT I HAVE BECOME IN LIFE AND WHAT MEANS MOST TO ME. TO BOIL IT DOWN IT,S SHARIN WITH MY SON REMEMBERIN GRAMP AND OUR TIMES MY LIFE I LIVE TO WALK MY WOODS AND BELIEVE IN WHAT I BELIEVE CAUSE IT IS ME. AND DON,T NEVER LET ANYONE CHANGE YOU. OR PUT YA DOWN FER IT. YOU ARE WHO YOU ARE ISMOST IMPORTANT,AND STAY THAT WAY IF THEY LOVE YA ENOUGH THEY,LL EXCEPT YOU THE WAY YOU AREOR THEY WON,T. DON,T TRY CHANGIN THEM EITHER JUST BE A FRIEND AND BE THERE FER ONE ANOTHER. IF THEY ARE YA FRIEND THEY WON,T TRY. EITHER AIN,T THAT [:)][;)]RIGHT??? YESSA. LATER LISTEN TO THE OLD LONEHUNTER! HAHA HE KNOWS WHAT HE,S TALKIN BOUT. YA CAN LEARN ALOT HERE IF YA WANT TO. LATER YOUR CHOICE!!!

GOOD ONE YOUGIN!! YOUR DOIN GOOD TO KEEP YOUR MIND OPEN IS TO LEEARN!! your smart you,ll figure it out what ya want.!!! later mare[:)]:sunglasses:

i really liked how ya put this bud!! good job. [:)][;)]:sunglasses:

great pic brother loved it

tubinjoe , i am impressed with you ! i did not know your age !

you show a streak of maturity in your postings that led me to belive you were much older . i was astonished .

i want you to know one thing , every issue has two sides , everyone has an opinion . before you decide on wether something is right or wrong , take the time to study both sides of an issue and decide on what you feel is right . don’t give in to peer or group pressure .

what may be good for me may or may not be the same for you . make your own decisions in life and stick to them . people respect a man who stays true to his convictions .

i will not encourage you to hunt , nor will i discourage you from hunting , that will have to be your choice when you make it .

you keep up with great posts and the great questions . i’m proud of you !

thanks…i really appriciate that. I usually do take time to look at all angles of a problem but hunting just slipped that step

joe

Joe you bring up an interesting point,

one wonders how can some one shoot an animal in the woods. and is it right for that matter. and just what is hunting…

I will see if I can explain it, I have yet to see a hunting vidio or fishing show that explains the whole concept of getting out in to the wilderness.

in some instances Joe I agree with you fully, I think there are folks who do not belong in the woods because they enjoy the kill just to much. that is not hunting. that is just plain murder in my book. So you have a valid point here.

now on the other hand why hunt. there are several reasons why hunting is a nessesity. [ol] - when it is a matter of food, personaly I never pull the triger unless it is for the dinner table. Trophies are nice, they make for some great conversation, Just like pulling out a giant tunna or marlin in on a rod, the bigger the better. there will always be that excitment. - population controll, this is the number one reason for allowing hunting, even for those who enjoy the killing of animals (cold as it seams) they provide a service that aids in keeping dear heards helthy. when deer or any animal for that matter becomes over populated (humans included) mother nature has a dirty trick up her sleave, she turns on virouses that cause illness that will go through an entire herd even a country side and nearly desimate to entire population to the point were there are only a few left to repopulate. hunting provides a clean up in the woods that was once done by wolves, cyoties, pumas, panthers, mountain lions, wolverienes, black bear, brown bear, grizzley bear, and the american indian. the fact of the matter is that vary few people want predators living in their back yards, especialy those with children. - the yearly get away, for many generations this has been the number one excuse for a man to get away form the shop, out of school, away from the house for a week or two. Bagging a deer is nice, but the get away is what a man or woman needs to rest his weiry sole from the every day grind that beats a man down year after year. strange as this may sound to you, there are a tremendous number of hunters that never make it out of deer camp, they are there for the card games, the flying bull crap being tossed back and forth across the fire pit (conversation), the food cooked out of doors in rustic utencils may not be meet the quality of the Don’s of Blu alla Antwan; it dose have a lot to be desired when one is breathing fresh crisp clean air most of the day and working up an apitite while wondering through the woods. - enjoyment of nature, for many of us who hunt, we us hunting as an excuse to get out of the house to take long walks in the woods and veiwing natures wonders, you never know what you are going to see if you just stop stand still and look in to the woods. Natures wonders can be laying just foot steps away from you and you would never know it (most never see what is laying in front of them), learning the habits and locations of various animals aids in the “Harvest” you would be surprized at the number of hunters who decide not to shoot an animal because it is not in their hearts to do so. It is a responcibility of a hunter to know what they are doing out in the woods, so they spend twice as many hours learning as much as they can about the woods they hunt as they actualy do hunt, their lives along with every one elses’s depends on it. most hunters are teritorial in nature, thay like to find a place that is secluded where they can be alone to enjoy natures harmony.[/ol]

I hope this helps you to understand hunting. You will find that you dont need a gun to enjoy the things discribed above, nor do you have to except the responcibility of taking an animal out of the woods. there are plenty of hunters out there that will do the best they can to see that the job is done efficently and properly. You can take a camera out and shoot every thing in the woods you see with a .35 millimeter and know you havent hurt any thing but the things you steped on… [:)]

top notch post dave !

there’s thoes “shoot it if it moves” guys out there that tarnish the sport beyond repair . makes me sick !

yessa dave that,s very good!! hey i went up north to the northeast kingdom this week end and never guess what i saw, it was so beautiful!!! i wish we could of got a picture. busy road and we had a car right on us so we couldn,t stop! but anyways mother and newborn outin the middle of the field right durin the day on the main road, and the fawn was gittin lunch right there. oh i loved it. didn,t look to be more,n a week old! beautiful! little wobbly legs just like a foal. i won,t forgit htat one!