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I had the opportunity to talk with Mr. Cushing at a local fishing volunteer meeting about some new fishing programs in Utah. He said he was thinking of putting together a "Dedicated Fisherman" program that would function somewhat like the Dedicated Hunter program. The only problem was that he couldn't think of a reward for the program. I have been thinking of stuff all week long and I thought I would throw this out to maybe give Drew some input or good ideas. So far the only reward I can think of is letting me loose on the Green River with a can of worms! LOL
Lets get creative here and give Drew some good ideas. Thanks, Hookjaw
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I am all for the Dedicated Fisherman Program, but I have no idea about a Reward. looks ;lioke we have a challenge at hand.
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A trophy bronzeback out of the 'nelle. One to put up on the wall, just one, that's all I want.
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Too late. I'm already a dedicated fisherman.
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Good point flashyfish2, I think we all have that one covered LOL.
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How about a free state parks pass? Make it easier and less expensive for some to access more waters.
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I'm all over the free state parks pass idea. Like it.
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The only problem was that he couldn't think of a reward for the program. [/reply]
That's the whole reason a DF program hasn't been put in place already, and why one won't be put in place anytime soon.
Realistically, there aren't any good "rewards" or incentives for anyone to join. What can't fishermen currently do, that they would be able to do if they joined a program?
Allowed to use bait on artificial only waters won't work. Too many people, like myself, don't see that as a reward. I wouldn't use it.
Free state parks pass? Certainly might be incentive for some, but again, not me.
Keep slot fish from areas with harvest slots? Again, that's hardly an incentive. Too many fishermen see that as a negative.
There just aren't many good incentives that would recruit enough people to join such a program.
It's too bad that more fishermen can't simply want to join up with the DWR for conservation efforts without some type of reward or incentive.
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[left]how about waving the price of your combonation lic. in the future[/left] [left]or discounted tackle from a local sporting good store[/left]
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How about a free state parks pass? Make it easier and less expensive for some to access more waters. [/reply]
This would work for me! I'd be happy to put in the hours in exchange for a pass into Jordanelle, Utah Lake (Provo), Sand Hollow, and others!
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What about accumulating points or something towards a Lifetime Fishing license or something of that sort.
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i already have a life time. a banquit with awards for service. like guided trips. instate. alaska grand prize. guys will come out of the wood work to get in.
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I was also thinking of a Banquet of some sort with all kinds of drawings. I'm sure alot of people would sponser it. We could get some gift certificates from Sportsmans, Anglers Den, Cabelas... Maybe even a guided fishing trip somewhere. I think that would be a great idea.
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How bout letting anglers keep a cutthroat in the slot at strawberry. Not that I would, but I know a lot of people would quit their whining about not being able to keep a fish at the berry. Heck, then people would probably do it legally rather than some who now do it and keep them illegally.
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I'm also thinkin of State Parks passes or maybe every 3rd year a free combo w/2nd pole permit...
The Fish and Game can only work with state resources (i.e. passes and fees)- Gifts and services such as trips and products would pose a problem...
Could sure get alot of projects done [sly]... PB
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I had the opportunity to talk with Mr. Cushing at a local fishing volunteer meeting about some new fishing programs in Utah. He said he was thinking of putting together a "Dedicated Fisherman" program that would function somewhat like the Dedicated Hunter program. The only problem was that he couldn't think of a reward for the program. I have been thinking of stuff all week long and I thought I would throw this out to maybe give Drew some input or good ideas. So far the only reward I can think of is letting me loose on the Green River with a can of worms! LOL
Lets get creative here and give Drew some good ideas. Thanks, Hookjaw
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I have an idea. The DWR could join up with the state and offer tax write-offs for land owners that permit dedicated fisherman on to their land to fish =)
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[size 1] I'm sure the same things were said before they started the dedicated hunters program. Ya, it would be great if everyone just got involved in it for their own unselfish reasons but unfortunately in the world today nobody does anything for free. I think it would be a great idea. Utah Lake gets more trash every year I go down there. A program like this with incentives, whatever they may be, could make a huge difference.[/size]
[size 1] I don't necessarily see this as what will this do for 'me'. This could be a chance to make a huge difference in utahs waters and state parks. The results of the program would impact alot more people than just a few people who volunteered.[/size]
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It is more difficult to come up with dedicated fisherman "perks" but I don't believe it is impossible. It sounds like the DWR is at least thinking about it. Here are a few ideas I thought of. (some have been mentioned already)
1. The division could obtain leases on private fishing water which can only be accessed at certain times per a schedule by "dedicated anglers". There are more than a few private river stretches in the state that I would love to fish.
2. Lifetime fishing licenses available again only to "dedicated anglers" (possibly at a discount). Obviously, this would not be a combination license, just a fishing license.
3. Reduced rates for state parks season passes and for day use and overnight camping.
4. I like fsh4fun05's idea for the issuance of a trophy "tag" (only one) to harvest a truly spectacular bass caught out of Jordanelle or Utah lake. This would allow a basser to have a chance at all state and other records when fishing these waters. I would not favor a general elimination of restrictions for program members.
5. Have the DH and "dedicated angler" programs intertwined so anglers who hunt can use their participation for both angling and hunting perks.
6. Have flexibility to add other one time only perks. For instance, if a water has been closed for a chemical treatment or other reason, and is reopening, allow the participants to fish the water 1 week before the general public does.
I know there are possible problems with any perk listed above and others, but I do think the concerns can be overcome and a program could work.
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I would love to see something like this happen. I truly want more fishermen to get involved with our state's resources. One thing that immediately jumps to mind that many of you haven't looked at, is that Utah is more than just the Wasatch Front. Yes, the majority of people in Utah live along the Front, but not all. With that in mind:
1. State Parks passes. Relatively little use to many fishermen in rural Utah. Maybe that's not a big deal.
2. State parks passes. What benefit do the State Parks get from giving out more passes to their parks? Remember, the DWR is a separate entity than the Parks. So, when the DWR tries to give out Parks passes (like the discounts this year) the Parks come back to the DWR with the "what are you going to do for us now?". So, if the DWR start's giving out Park's passes, what do fishermen have to give up to the Parks?
3. Leases on private fishing waters. For some, this might be lucrative. But not me. I don't want to fish private waters. I want to to fish on a level playing field as everyone else. Access to private waters isn't an incentive to many fishermen.
4. Lifetime fishing licenses. Great idea. As soon as I get my lifetime license, you can forget me joining up again, and renewing. The state also loses revenue with this rout. Doubtful this one will get anywhere.
5. "Trophy" tags on slot waters. Too many fishermen won't go for this. The slots are in place to protect those fisheries. The people who would join such a program - intended to help our fisheries - would be the same people that fought for the slots, and are against harvesting those fish.
6. Dedicated Hunter program. Does the DWR have enough projects for the DH program currently? Could they support another such program with projects? No objection here -- just a question that would need to be answered.
7. One time only perks: There may be some of these out there. But, again, I don't think the example given would work. Typically, with treatments, why would most fishermen want to fish one early?
Again, I think this could be a good program, but we're going to have to come up with some GOOD incentives. Also, we are going to have to be prepared to hear the reasons our ideas won't work. I'm not trying to shut this proposal up before it get's started. Rather, I'm trying to give you guys some things to think about. This idea is NOT a new idea. It has been kicked around for a number of years. There are very good reasons why this idea hasn't been implemented already.
One bit of advice: get involved right now. Don't wait for a program. If you really want to make our fisheries better, you shouldn't need an incentive program to get involved. Call your regional office and see what you can do to get involved and work together with our biologists.
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Very good comments. It doesn't take something in reward to help our natural resources. Pick up some garbage here and there or donate your time to a volunteer project.
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