12-12-2016, 03:56 PM
[quote Excaliber551]Nice try but that's not quite how it's working. Creel reports mean nothing at Henry's since most of the people don't keep fish there anyways. Henry's was supposed to be a trophy fishery not a family put and take lake.
Ice fisherman are severely impacting the fishery considering most of these people would be lucky to catch a bigger fish on late season open water. On the hard deck they are catching big numbers of these sized fish.
The bigger fish were hammered once ice fishing started and now the quality of fish or trophy fish at Henry's is horrible to very poor at best.
Henry's was on a major decline since around 2006 and now
The trophy fish have all but disappeared in the past several years. When was the last time you saw several fish in the teens coming out of Henry's?
Believe what you want. I'll believe what I see when I'm on the water.
[quote MMDon]Sorry Ex but the numbers just don't back up your concerns. When factoring in the numbers of fish vs. the creel counts the ice fishermen aren't even impacting the total numbers of fish. If anything, the lake was overpopulated with fish for a number of years and the ice fishermen might, in some small way, actually help the quality of fishing at Henry's. We know from past history the best thing that can happen to improve Henry's is to have a severe die off due to drought. The numbers of giant fish improve markedly the years after such a reduction in overall fish numbers and a burst in forage fish such as chubs due to low oxygenated waters.[/quote][/quote]
Unfortunately you are wildly misinformed when it comes to trophy lake management. You are simply pointing your finger in the wrong direction. At the time ice fishing was allowed, a major problem had already occurred. In the infinite wisdom of the dfg management, they had encouraged natural reproduction to such a point that when added to the plant numbers the lake became over populated with fish. Trophy lake management requires reducing the production of fish, not enhancing them. The dfg decided that the lake would better serve the sales of licenses to out of state fishermen if everyone caught fish of any size. They were also pushing the cutthroat recovery program at the same time so those two goals played directly into one another. I for one, would like to see the lake's fish biomass reduced to only hybrid fish as I feel there are enough put and take lakes and far to few trophy waters in S. East Idaho. That doesn't sell licenses to the masses however. You can continue to think what ever you wish as I don't give a rat's ass but, just because you have your own truth does not entitle you to making up your own facts.![[Image: bobwink.gif]](http://www.bigfishtackle.com/images/gforum/bobwink.gif)
What the lake really needs is slot guidance with a larger limit of slot fish to increase the size of the trophy population. Right now the biomass is challenged to produce enough of the right kind of food for a successful trophy fishery.
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Ice fisherman are severely impacting the fishery considering most of these people would be lucky to catch a bigger fish on late season open water. On the hard deck they are catching big numbers of these sized fish.
The bigger fish were hammered once ice fishing started and now the quality of fish or trophy fish at Henry's is horrible to very poor at best.
Henry's was on a major decline since around 2006 and now
The trophy fish have all but disappeared in the past several years. When was the last time you saw several fish in the teens coming out of Henry's?
Believe what you want. I'll believe what I see when I'm on the water.
[quote MMDon]Sorry Ex but the numbers just don't back up your concerns. When factoring in the numbers of fish vs. the creel counts the ice fishermen aren't even impacting the total numbers of fish. If anything, the lake was overpopulated with fish for a number of years and the ice fishermen might, in some small way, actually help the quality of fishing at Henry's. We know from past history the best thing that can happen to improve Henry's is to have a severe die off due to drought. The numbers of giant fish improve markedly the years after such a reduction in overall fish numbers and a burst in forage fish such as chubs due to low oxygenated waters.[/quote][/quote]
Unfortunately you are wildly misinformed when it comes to trophy lake management. You are simply pointing your finger in the wrong direction. At the time ice fishing was allowed, a major problem had already occurred. In the infinite wisdom of the dfg management, they had encouraged natural reproduction to such a point that when added to the plant numbers the lake became over populated with fish. Trophy lake management requires reducing the production of fish, not enhancing them. The dfg decided that the lake would better serve the sales of licenses to out of state fishermen if everyone caught fish of any size. They were also pushing the cutthroat recovery program at the same time so those two goals played directly into one another. I for one, would like to see the lake's fish biomass reduced to only hybrid fish as I feel there are enough put and take lakes and far to few trophy waters in S. East Idaho. That doesn't sell licenses to the masses however. You can continue to think what ever you wish as I don't give a rat's ass but, just because you have your own truth does not entitle you to making up your own facts.
What the lake really needs is slot guidance with a larger limit of slot fish to increase the size of the trophy population. Right now the biomass is challenged to produce enough of the right kind of food for a successful trophy fishery.
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