05-11-2015, 05:01 PM
[quote fishday]
If you want to get into the 21st century and get peoples opinions maybe participating in a forum like this would get a better cross section of opinion than a meeting somewhere a couple of times of year that very few seem to attend. I bet a lot more people monitor this site than ever attend one of those RAC meetings.[/quote]
Sure -- if your target is the "interweb" savvy crowd we see on this forum. Thank heaven's decisions are NOT made based of this web site!
FWIW -- the committees that the southern region has been using (Fish Lake, Boulder Mountain, Lake Powell) have been very good. They seem to be moving in the right direction.
I see the DWR participate on occasion on these forums. However, I think they have to be pretty careful. I would guess that as soon as one of them makes a comment there would be a follow-up question, that would then need a response, that would then get a followup question that would need a response, that would then generate a followup question that would then need a response, that would then get a followup question that would need a response, that would then generate a followup questionthat would then need a response, that would then get a followup question that would need a response, that would then generate a followup questionthat would then need a response, that would then get a followup question that would need a response, that would then generate a followup question....
At some point, our biologists need to be able to do their job.
The thing that most people always want to push aside and forget is that with nearly all endangered species work that is done, other species benefit. That includes walleye, catfish, white bass, and pike. They all benefit thanks the June sucker recovery program.
Nobody -- including the DWR -- is blind enough to think that they are reversing history and attempting to restore Utah Lake back to it's original place. It will never be a cold, clear water lake full of trout ever again. But that doesn't mean you can't do something about making the lake BETTER.
The ESA doesn't mean that changes can't be made. It just means that you have some policies and procedures that have to be followed prior to making those changes. You just have to work WITH other people to accomplish something. You also have to have a plan, and a reason with some legitimate backing. It's not something you can just say "hey, let's try this" and go do it...
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If you want to get into the 21st century and get peoples opinions maybe participating in a forum like this would get a better cross section of opinion than a meeting somewhere a couple of times of year that very few seem to attend. I bet a lot more people monitor this site than ever attend one of those RAC meetings.[/quote]
Sure -- if your target is the "interweb" savvy crowd we see on this forum. Thank heaven's decisions are NOT made based of this web site!
FWIW -- the committees that the southern region has been using (Fish Lake, Boulder Mountain, Lake Powell) have been very good. They seem to be moving in the right direction.
I see the DWR participate on occasion on these forums. However, I think they have to be pretty careful. I would guess that as soon as one of them makes a comment there would be a follow-up question, that would then need a response, that would then get a followup question that would need a response, that would then generate a followup question that would then need a response, that would then get a followup question that would need a response, that would then generate a followup questionthat would then need a response, that would then get a followup question that would need a response, that would then generate a followup questionthat would then need a response, that would then get a followup question that would need a response, that would then generate a followup question....
At some point, our biologists need to be able to do their job.
The thing that most people always want to push aside and forget is that with nearly all endangered species work that is done, other species benefit. That includes walleye, catfish, white bass, and pike. They all benefit thanks the June sucker recovery program.
Nobody -- including the DWR -- is blind enough to think that they are reversing history and attempting to restore Utah Lake back to it's original place. It will never be a cold, clear water lake full of trout ever again. But that doesn't mean you can't do something about making the lake BETTER.
The ESA doesn't mean that changes can't be made. It just means that you have some policies and procedures that have to be followed prior to making those changes. You just have to work WITH other people to accomplish something. You also have to have a plan, and a reason with some legitimate backing. It's not something you can just say "hey, let's try this" and go do it...
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