01-03-2004, 08:45 AM
well lonehunter, you and me ain,t talked in a while, and probably after i git done we won,t again fer awhile, but i been doin all the talkinanyways and you not answerein anyways, so i guess i,m just gonna say what i want to say. haha so as the guy said an "opinion" haha now, haha igot one fer ya, i think you were hard on him, cause he don,t understand no more,n i do, cause i,m up here nd your down there. and he,s probably somewhere else. your 'LAWS" OUR"LAWS" ARE TOTL DIFFERENT. but i think , that,s a BIG EXCUSE, that they don,t have time to git out and scout.THAT,S WHY THEY GOT TO BAIT???? HAHA bull--- that,s just a good excuse to bait. i think it,s a bunch of bull. if anyone is a good hunter, want to hunt! and wants to hunt an aarea, and is a RESPONSIBLE, SPORTMANSHIP, HUNTER, they ought to be knowin whats changed OR IS in there over the year, or if he,s never been in there to check it out in the first place before he sets his foot in there to shoot. IF THEY CAN,T THEY SHOULDN,T BE IN THEE IN THE FIRST PLACE. that,s how people git killed. THAT TO ME IS A MORON STATEMENT. IF soneome HAS a licence HE SHE, has the responsibility to themselves and everyone else in there to TAKE TIME AND LEARN WHERE HE,S GONNA HUNT, TAKE THE TIME! OR DON,T HUNT THESE STUPID LAME REMARKS AND EXCUSES FER THEM, THESE ARE WHAT MAKES ME NOT WANT FLAT--LANDERS UP HERE.! .IF THOSE ARE THAT DESPERATE FER FOOD, THEY,D BE IN THERE GITTIN WHAT EVER THEY COULD TO EAT, NOT JUST DEER. ONCE A YEAR. but all year thru. those are just excuses to me. A real LAME EXCUSE. IF THERES THE PROBLEM OF CONTROLLIN YOUR VAST DEER HEARD AND THEIRS THAT MANY, FROM THE WAY IT SOUNDS, WHY DO YA NEED TO BAIT?? and maybe he, RELEASEIT, THEN HE,S GOT A POINT, LEARN HOW TO HUNT, HAHA THE OLD FASHIONED WAY. HAHA THE SPORTIN WAY. MAYBE HE, AND I don,t have no MEETINS TO GO TO. and anyways here,IT,S THE WAY IT TIS. DEAL WITH IT. it,s against the LAW TO BAIT.HERE. AND I LIKE IT THAT WAY. I DON,T BELIEVE ITS SPORTIN. you oncw put my grandfathers bear huntin dogs down, well that,s what we do. AND IT,S NOT AGAINST THE LAW HERE, TO RUN BEAR, there,s extreme amount of areas those bear travel here, all mountains forests woods, no houses, only little towns, FEW HOUSES OUT BUT ON RAODS, LIKE MINE, with only five houses on it and i am at the foot of my mountin, i grew up on. the towns are small, and we have white river which is a city but 20 miles aways, then burlington that is over 100 miles away. and not that many towns in betwixt. up thru rte. 14 from white river. and i,m lower than that. and all mountains,. the futher ya git north up[ in the kingdom, less than that.as fer as towns, all mountains, steep ridges, UP! we hunt bear like that and we can hunt them like coon, that,s why my grandfather raised, bear dogs, and that,s what that breed does. black and tan hounds,, walkers, yes and even 15 inch beagles, like jake was.but a good many of em together hunted, all of em, these are my traditions my gramp handed down to me. i wish i had the dogs gramp had. i,d a been doin it along time ago with him. but he died when i was 15. and WE CAN.cause it,s not against the law. it,s tradition. it,s life. i gave ya the reasons why i dont like tree stands, we,ve had too many episodes with ones that come up and do what when where they want any time they want. and also this big 2 gallon rule, what,s the difference between 2gal. and a truck load, the deer are still learnin the same indocecresisies. that people will feed me. and i don,t have to fend fer myself and I CAN rely on peole feedin me their sayin.. ya mights swell shoot your pet, cause that,s what them deer become. the little ones see it come in and git use to you, the food, not scared anymore, then one year ya shoot em. ya i,d be proud of that. IF THAT,S SPORTSMANSHIP, I GUESS I QUIT HUNTIN. and you guys talk about these ranchesk that people go on, and shoot trophy bucks and don,t want em in the boone and crockett?? what ,s the difference?? only thing, they pay fer their trip?? isn,t that hypicritical?? i,m gonna do it i mights swell do it good! hahah AND it,s their RESPONSIBILITY TO KNOW WHERE THAT BULLET IS GONNA END UP IF YOUR SHOOTIN. LIKE A BANK, OR SHOOTIN INTO A REVINE. YA SHOULDN,T BE SHOOTIN =IF YA DON,T.know where it is goin. in the first place! my point! seems though that one of the first rules or IS THE FIRST RULE, THAT YOU CAN,T TAKE THAT BULLET BACK. and if i remember right ya don,t shoot if ya don,t know what your shootin at, like ALL THE TARGET??shouldn,t even be comin in there head to shoot. but in all my days i,ve never had to shoot maybe 50 yards at a deer, there not that fer away, i don,t use a scope cause i dont need one.in all of em i,ve ever seen. why do ya have to shoot clearn cross a field? sounds like thats what your talkin about, and i don,t believe htat a hunter that needs food that much, can,t be a sportsman and still not git a deer if needed that bad. to me a sportsman is to have some dignity fer that deer and himself not to break laws. if they have to do that, then let em pay the price, your state ought to be doin somethin like havin longer huntin seasons, or havein mre hunts, or the game warden whe n they find a downed deer give it to a place where they can cut it up till they git more and feed peolpe with it, rather than lettin it go to waste or findin people to give it TO.MAYBE YA OUGHT TO BE TALKIN BOUT THIS PRBLEM AT YOUR MEETINGS, I THINK PEOPLE GOIN HUNGRY IN THIS US WHEN WE GOT HUNTIN AND FISHIN LICENCES IS OUTRAGEOUS,from what that other guy said. bout people havin to eat deer meat, all year long, but [crazy][crazy] i see more waste that the grocery stores throw out because theres a blemish on that tomato, or squash, they thow it out cause nobody will buy it. waste, when someone else has nothin.?? common. i fed my pigs better than most humans eat. with stuff the stoire threw away. your meetins ought to be doin somethin bout that.but as fer as these morans, haha, ,.i,d rather keep them out of the woods when they have no idea, where that bullet is goin, or are too desperate fer time to scout,haaha keeop em out of the woods, and let the game wardens or someone git them deer rather than shootin each other. thay sound like morons the way your talkin and makin it sound like the shoe fits, with excuses fer em.LIKE THIS. are you tellin me that it,s that much of flat-land down there hat there,s no mountains ridges, revines, TREES? BANKS TO SHOOT IN? COMMON? i,ve shot deer when they,ve clearn walked up on me and they were so close i could see there breathe, don,t tell me a good hunter can,t find one if theres that many deer without baitin? what are you complainin about at least you see em. i can hunt fer days on end here and not find em cause they know it,s huntin season. and i have to go by right time right place. that,s why i,m in the wood scoutin all year round, i olive there, yes so that helps. but if i paln to go somewhere else i start real early an i,m in there . if i can they can. and i can,t walk good anymore either. BUT I LOVE MY HUNTIN, AND IF I,M GONNA HUNT I,M GONNA BE A RESPONSIBLE, SPORTIN HUNTER, and fer me, sportsmanship and hunter, are the same word. BECAUSE I LOVE IT SO. I RESPECT IT AND MY LICENCE. SO WITH ALL THE PAIN I AM IN, AND i know what your talkin about dave, but i know your a sportman too, and you still even though your havin a hard time gittin in , your still lookin round where your at at your backin and polacement shot. so if we can they can. i,ll STILL GO TILL I DROP,but i,m a good hunter always have been. i.ll pick my spot. with A BACKING.. what,s the difference than baitin and havin dogs fer bear? the deer ya wait fer. the bear ya have to walk miles to shoot. and sometines attacks you. i,d rather have somethin hold it rather than gittin mauled. thank you. my husband got treed by one. that wante to git hold of him. and it weighed over 600 lbs. a black bear, we got em here on my mountain like that. the one that chased me down the mountain was like him. he was so old he was eatin AND MAULIN, the farmers calves so al and i went after him fer him. the old octogon 30-30 jammed and al couldn,t shoot it. so it decided to come after me. that was fun.. i wish i had gramps dogs then i,ll tell ya. if you were WITH me you wouldn,t of minded them there either lookin at him within toooo close a range. i,m lucky i made it to the barn when he was right on my a====.
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