09-30-2013, 08:38 PM
[quote PBH][quote bassrods]I don't know about you but in the last five years I have only been checked one time in Utah..Now think how many times you have been checked..
Creel survey??? Are you for reel??[/quote]
Doesn't that depend on where you fish, and whether or not a survey is being done?
I was checked EVERY TIME I fished Minersville this year. However, I was never checked while fishing Newcastle. Ironically, the DWR was conducting a survey at Minersville, but they weren't at Newcastle. Coincidence?
Cliff -- do you harvest any bass? I'm not pointing my finger at you -- I'm just curious.
At one time, the Provo River had this same issue and discussion. Too many small fish. Anglers screaming for a slot to protect those mid-sized fish so that they could grow to be big. Problem: NOBODY was harvesting ANY fish. What good is a slot if nobody harvests those fish out of the slot?[/quote]
There is no good for a slot in that sense but this is merely the concept of hegemony operating on a sociological level. People are brainwashed by the ideology of catch and release so they see killing a bass as worse than killing their child. They refuse to kill any bass then see it as a moral sin, and are angered and shocked when others kill a bass. They lobby for reg changes and then force their views and morals to be imposed on everyone around them through voice, power, and money spend to lobby for regulations that will support their ideology. Therefore what you have in end result is limitation of individual freedom and autonomy to even eat a fish! Further there are a bunch of lakes with stunted overpopulated bass and blue ribbon rivers full of tiny 6 inch trophy brown with fungus all over their backs. But some people aren't open to education. You can't teach a guy who is closed minded. You simply set rules and regs according to biology and ignore what the public says lol. Especially when you don't really hear from the public at large. You only hear from certain elitist groups on these regs and meetings.
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Creel survey??? Are you for reel??[/quote]
Doesn't that depend on where you fish, and whether or not a survey is being done?
I was checked EVERY TIME I fished Minersville this year. However, I was never checked while fishing Newcastle. Ironically, the DWR was conducting a survey at Minersville, but they weren't at Newcastle. Coincidence?
Cliff -- do you harvest any bass? I'm not pointing my finger at you -- I'm just curious.
At one time, the Provo River had this same issue and discussion. Too many small fish. Anglers screaming for a slot to protect those mid-sized fish so that they could grow to be big. Problem: NOBODY was harvesting ANY fish. What good is a slot if nobody harvests those fish out of the slot?[/quote]
There is no good for a slot in that sense but this is merely the concept of hegemony operating on a sociological level. People are brainwashed by the ideology of catch and release so they see killing a bass as worse than killing their child. They refuse to kill any bass then see it as a moral sin, and are angered and shocked when others kill a bass. They lobby for reg changes and then force their views and morals to be imposed on everyone around them through voice, power, and money spend to lobby for regulations that will support their ideology. Therefore what you have in end result is limitation of individual freedom and autonomy to even eat a fish! Further there are a bunch of lakes with stunted overpopulated bass and blue ribbon rivers full of tiny 6 inch trophy brown with fungus all over their backs. But some people aren't open to education. You can't teach a guy who is closed minded. You simply set rules and regs according to biology and ignore what the public says lol. Especially when you don't really hear from the public at large. You only hear from certain elitist groups on these regs and meetings.
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