10-13-2003, 05:02 PM
Entrapment is when an officer talks you into or someway forces you into breaking the law and then arrests you for it, not asking you about what you did without telling you that he is a cop.
I agree with neveronsunday. For some there seems to be a lack of respect towards our law officials. In fact I am pretty disgusted at the attitude towards the DWR enforcement officers that I am hearing from some. Only thugs have a reason to fear. Yes, there are good cops and bad cops. But I am disgusted how they are all being lumped into the bad category just because they are using creative tactics to do their job, legally, and for our benefit. We all want better hunting and fishing but the minute someone does something to accomplish that, and we are even slightly affected, we complain and yell foul. It's pitiful.
Here's is a story for you. I was hunting elk by Little Dell Reservoir in Parleys Canyon. I wasn't feeling well so I was coming off the mountain early. As I got off the mountain a fish cop rolls up and checks my license. I was NOT offended and DID NOT worry because I was legal. We got to talking. He was very friendly and very polite. He even shared info on where to find the elk. Something I said made him refer to an incident from the weekend before. I didn't know what he was talking about so he told me the story. We were in the extended archery unit and it was late season, probably early Decemeber. The officer pointed to an old dirt road and said that archery hunters had reported some gun shots in the area of that road and that shortly after hearing the shots a man had returned to his car and then got out a bow and went back up the mountain. Suspicious, is it not? So the responsible archery hunters reported the activity. The officer that I was talking to was sent to check it out. When he arrived he found the man dragging out a trophy deer. Of course, the officer BOTHERED the man and asked to see his license and asked some questions. The whole time they were standing by the man's old beat up truck, which had Montana plates. The man was very figity and kept easing his way around to the passenger side of his truck. The officer kept telling him to come back and stand still. Finally, the officer told him to go stand by the officer's truck while he looked around. So the man did. What did the officer find? A loaded hand gun, in plain sight, on the passenger seat of the man's truck. Of course the man was arrested for poaching. He had killed a trophy buck with a .22 and then gone to get a bow to conceal his poaching. After being arrested the scum bag began to brag about all of the poaching he had done, not only in Utah, but in a lot of other states. Needless to say, the guy had no hunting license. He was wanted in another state for the same thing. The officer told me that from what the guy said there was no doubt that he had intended to get the hand gun and use it. The officer I was talking to deserves our respect. Don't you think?
And I have to say that I have never been bullied by an officer and I have been checked many, many times. But then again, maybe I get treated well because I show them the respect they deserve. They do put their lives on the line for us. The least we can do for them is to cut them some slack when they INCONVENIENCE us while they do their job.
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I agree with neveronsunday. For some there seems to be a lack of respect towards our law officials. In fact I am pretty disgusted at the attitude towards the DWR enforcement officers that I am hearing from some. Only thugs have a reason to fear. Yes, there are good cops and bad cops. But I am disgusted how they are all being lumped into the bad category just because they are using creative tactics to do their job, legally, and for our benefit. We all want better hunting and fishing but the minute someone does something to accomplish that, and we are even slightly affected, we complain and yell foul. It's pitiful.
Here's is a story for you. I was hunting elk by Little Dell Reservoir in Parleys Canyon. I wasn't feeling well so I was coming off the mountain early. As I got off the mountain a fish cop rolls up and checks my license. I was NOT offended and DID NOT worry because I was legal. We got to talking. He was very friendly and very polite. He even shared info on where to find the elk. Something I said made him refer to an incident from the weekend before. I didn't know what he was talking about so he told me the story. We were in the extended archery unit and it was late season, probably early Decemeber. The officer pointed to an old dirt road and said that archery hunters had reported some gun shots in the area of that road and that shortly after hearing the shots a man had returned to his car and then got out a bow and went back up the mountain. Suspicious, is it not? So the responsible archery hunters reported the activity. The officer that I was talking to was sent to check it out. When he arrived he found the man dragging out a trophy deer. Of course, the officer BOTHERED the man and asked to see his license and asked some questions. The whole time they were standing by the man's old beat up truck, which had Montana plates. The man was very figity and kept easing his way around to the passenger side of his truck. The officer kept telling him to come back and stand still. Finally, the officer told him to go stand by the officer's truck while he looked around. So the man did. What did the officer find? A loaded hand gun, in plain sight, on the passenger seat of the man's truck. Of course the man was arrested for poaching. He had killed a trophy buck with a .22 and then gone to get a bow to conceal his poaching. After being arrested the scum bag began to brag about all of the poaching he had done, not only in Utah, but in a lot of other states. Needless to say, the guy had no hunting license. He was wanted in another state for the same thing. The officer told me that from what the guy said there was no doubt that he had intended to get the hand gun and use it. The officer I was talking to deserves our respect. Don't you think?
And I have to say that I have never been bullied by an officer and I have been checked many, many times. But then again, maybe I get treated well because I show them the respect they deserve. They do put their lives on the line for us. The least we can do for them is to cut them some slack when they INCONVENIENCE us while they do their job.
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