01-23-2012, 01:28 AM
Aire owns Outcast. When Dave left employment from Outcast for whatever reason, he built his own boats. This was many years ago with Anglers Inn. Dave was a designer for Outcast and I am sure he had something to do with the Fat Cat design, because he had his own version under his name. He used "Aire" bladders also. So, basically, Aire was building bladders for both Outcast and Scadden, but they were two very different companies.
Dave left Aire for his own reason and one being he wanted to keep his boats USA made, which they are to this day (note: I say his boats are USA made, accessories may be China such as bags, seat, oars) The Dual Bladder Pac boat from Outcast Dave holds the patent on it. Dave has a patent on many of his product because he has such a strong idea and as you can see, people steal his ideas.
I imagine a slight change here and there they can get away with and maybe he has an agreement with outcast, but I sent this CC boat info to the NFO shop a little over three weeks ago when I came across it by accident. It was not featured in their line-up yet. The gentleman I talked to at NFO was very upset and said he would let Dave know. Dave is in Seattle right now so no idea what will happen. Maybe nothing.
Mixed feelings on this because it is such a terrific design and as many have stated they would love one but finances prevent. This would be their chance.
But, in the same breath, if this boat proves to be a let down, I hope people realize it is not the same.
Many people prefer the inflatable seat area. I can tell you, the Navigator II I had has this same inflatable seat (same as the H3) The H3 didn't bother me but the Navigator did a little. After now using the new model, the difference is day and night.
It also appears you are sitting lower in these CC boats. The head on picture shows the seat in the water. Not a big deal I guess but I don't need to wear waders on my NFO and there is no seat drag.
Seat drag could present a problem because you are sitting a little higher and not as much leg in the water.
I am not trying to put down this product, as I said, it does open several doors to family restricted budgets. Just a few hands on experiences I have had and notice.
The Navigator had a ton of room in the back and a zipper to mount a motor, that was way cool feature:
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Dave left Aire for his own reason and one being he wanted to keep his boats USA made, which they are to this day (note: I say his boats are USA made, accessories may be China such as bags, seat, oars) The Dual Bladder Pac boat from Outcast Dave holds the patent on it. Dave has a patent on many of his product because he has such a strong idea and as you can see, people steal his ideas.
I imagine a slight change here and there they can get away with and maybe he has an agreement with outcast, but I sent this CC boat info to the NFO shop a little over three weeks ago when I came across it by accident. It was not featured in their line-up yet. The gentleman I talked to at NFO was very upset and said he would let Dave know. Dave is in Seattle right now so no idea what will happen. Maybe nothing.
Mixed feelings on this because it is such a terrific design and as many have stated they would love one but finances prevent. This would be their chance.
But, in the same breath, if this boat proves to be a let down, I hope people realize it is not the same.
Many people prefer the inflatable seat area. I can tell you, the Navigator II I had has this same inflatable seat (same as the H3) The H3 didn't bother me but the Navigator did a little. After now using the new model, the difference is day and night.
It also appears you are sitting lower in these CC boats. The head on picture shows the seat in the water. Not a big deal I guess but I don't need to wear waders on my NFO and there is no seat drag.
Seat drag could present a problem because you are sitting a little higher and not as much leg in the water.
I am not trying to put down this product, as I said, it does open several doors to family restricted budgets. Just a few hands on experiences I have had and notice.
The Navigator had a ton of room in the back and a zipper to mount a motor, that was way cool feature:
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