09-26-2010, 12:00 AM
BR, I would like to know who your connection is with the DWR that "put" them in there because I happened to be working with them during the time they were "discovered" in East Canyon in the first place and I assure you they were NOT put in by the DWR. Later, maybe, I don't know. I haven't been with them for a while now but not originally.
I will always prefer fresh fish I caught over store bought, farm raised shizz! I totally agree the smaller ones (bass) taste better and I'm mostly a C&R man myself anyway but PLEASE don't try to convince me that store bought tastes better. [crazy][crazy]
You are also correct about our water situation out here in the west and particularly here. Water rights are king and it is difficult, to say the least, managing waters(reservoirs) that have so much yearly fluctuation. I think bass management in this state may not be as refined as the trout but I admit I don't target bass much myself so by no means am I saying this new reg is the solution.
I'm curious as to what you think about Pineview vs. Sand Hollow for bass mngement? Same reg I believe and I hear there are an over abundance of the smaller variety in Pineview. Is it because of the reg or is it because too many people are releasing the smaller ones? I'd lean toward too many being released and not kept, much like the trout in the Green River below the Gorge. In years past you'd get seriously scourned for thinking of keeping a larger, over the slot, trout and who's going to keep the dink trout? Not many. Now it sounds like they want kept. I think there are more factors at play than just C&R. Just my opinion I guess.
I think the DWR tries to implement sound management. Perfect? No. But every solution from your posts have been pretty much exclusively C&R.
Anyone who visits this site obviously loves to catch fish or at least loves to get out and enjoy fishing even if they don't catch anything. There are as many reasons for how and why people fish as there are fishermen. Still, don't think it's right to hound someone for being within there legal limit(not saying I agree with keeping a limit EVERY time either). I had an experience with that issue with some crappie enthusiast that wanted the crappie limit lowered cause he was worried about #'s of larger crappies being taken out that year. So I asked him this question. Who do you think has more of an impact to the fishery? The man who gets out once a winter and happens to get lucky with the crappies and keeps his limit of 20 or the retired guys(like the gentleman I was talking to) who are out everyday and keeping only 8-10? I didn't say he didn't have the right to do that but I think he opened his mind to some acceptance of the limits and perhaps self governing of the resource as well.
I'm sure enforcement might help as mentioned by the previous post. As I creel surveyed many anglers, you would not believe how many people didn't bother to even look at the regs let alone try to understand them. It sounds like it might he a good idea to simplify them since the Division itself so strapped in trying to enforce them but like you said time will tell now.
Store bought fish better than fresh fish I caught? Are you for real?
Later
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I will always prefer fresh fish I caught over store bought, farm raised shizz! I totally agree the smaller ones (bass) taste better and I'm mostly a C&R man myself anyway but PLEASE don't try to convince me that store bought tastes better. [crazy][crazy]
You are also correct about our water situation out here in the west and particularly here. Water rights are king and it is difficult, to say the least, managing waters(reservoirs) that have so much yearly fluctuation. I think bass management in this state may not be as refined as the trout but I admit I don't target bass much myself so by no means am I saying this new reg is the solution.
I'm curious as to what you think about Pineview vs. Sand Hollow for bass mngement? Same reg I believe and I hear there are an over abundance of the smaller variety in Pineview. Is it because of the reg or is it because too many people are releasing the smaller ones? I'd lean toward too many being released and not kept, much like the trout in the Green River below the Gorge. In years past you'd get seriously scourned for thinking of keeping a larger, over the slot, trout and who's going to keep the dink trout? Not many. Now it sounds like they want kept. I think there are more factors at play than just C&R. Just my opinion I guess.
I think the DWR tries to implement sound management. Perfect? No. But every solution from your posts have been pretty much exclusively C&R.
Anyone who visits this site obviously loves to catch fish or at least loves to get out and enjoy fishing even if they don't catch anything. There are as many reasons for how and why people fish as there are fishermen. Still, don't think it's right to hound someone for being within there legal limit(not saying I agree with keeping a limit EVERY time either). I had an experience with that issue with some crappie enthusiast that wanted the crappie limit lowered cause he was worried about #'s of larger crappies being taken out that year. So I asked him this question. Who do you think has more of an impact to the fishery? The man who gets out once a winter and happens to get lucky with the crappies and keeps his limit of 20 or the retired guys(like the gentleman I was talking to) who are out everyday and keeping only 8-10? I didn't say he didn't have the right to do that but I think he opened his mind to some acceptance of the limits and perhaps self governing of the resource as well.
I'm sure enforcement might help as mentioned by the previous post. As I creel surveyed many anglers, you would not believe how many people didn't bother to even look at the regs let alone try to understand them. It sounds like it might he a good idea to simplify them since the Division itself so strapped in trying to enforce them but like you said time will tell now.
Store bought fish better than fresh fish I caught? Are you for real?
Later
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