09-06-2010, 02:28 AM
[quote lucabrasi]I agree with you, water is buoyant. But fill your waders, boots, etc. Not get some in them, fill them. Then tell me you are still buoyant. No, it is not like having cement shoes on, but you aren't going to be graceful in the slightest.
I also agree that the water should press everything tight up to your body and keep anything from pouring in.
Also, you should always be feet first going downstream for sure if you fall in, but this will fill whatever you have on up. Yes, you will be able to move in the current some no argument there. Downstream and wherever it takes you.
My issue is that it is dangerous, and it will pull you under when filled. You are not going to get out anywhere close to as easy as if they were not filled. Ever tried crossing a river in strong current? Now think of doing that with full waders or boots. Same as going swimming in your clothes, you can swim, but sure is a lot harder. And if you have waders on chances are you have pants on and that is going to weigh you down even more. Would you rather fall in with waders on or your shorts? Easy answer. It is a big deal when they fill up and one should be careful and take all precautions needed for a safe trip.
I have been and probably will be guilty again of not wearing a PFD on an "easy" stretch of river but you did nail it. Wear a PFD is the bottom line.[/quote]
AGAIN, change in masses.
If you are chest deep in water with boot foot no boot foot waders full of water up to your waist...you are not going to notice it.
It is when you step out of the deep water so now you are knee deep and the waders are still waist full.
As far as fast currant, it will pull your feet out from under you no matter what. If you are saying that water in the waders cause buoyancy/weight, then I would think that a plus in fast water. I have been picked up off my feet in fast water, I would love some extra weight.
But water does NOT way more in a wader than it does OUT of a wader.
Please read the MYTHS, or not.......
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I also agree that the water should press everything tight up to your body and keep anything from pouring in.
Also, you should always be feet first going downstream for sure if you fall in, but this will fill whatever you have on up. Yes, you will be able to move in the current some no argument there. Downstream and wherever it takes you.
My issue is that it is dangerous, and it will pull you under when filled. You are not going to get out anywhere close to as easy as if they were not filled. Ever tried crossing a river in strong current? Now think of doing that with full waders or boots. Same as going swimming in your clothes, you can swim, but sure is a lot harder. And if you have waders on chances are you have pants on and that is going to weigh you down even more. Would you rather fall in with waders on or your shorts? Easy answer. It is a big deal when they fill up and one should be careful and take all precautions needed for a safe trip.
I have been and probably will be guilty again of not wearing a PFD on an "easy" stretch of river but you did nail it. Wear a PFD is the bottom line.[/quote]
AGAIN, change in masses.
If you are chest deep in water with boot foot no boot foot waders full of water up to your waist...you are not going to notice it.
It is when you step out of the deep water so now you are knee deep and the waders are still waist full.
As far as fast currant, it will pull your feet out from under you no matter what. If you are saying that water in the waders cause buoyancy/weight, then I would think that a plus in fast water. I have been picked up off my feet in fast water, I would love some extra weight.
But water does NOT way more in a wader than it does OUT of a wader.
Please read the MYTHS, or not.......
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