05-21-2003, 10:31 PM 
		
	
	
		Welcome vanman, try haws point or the ladders(before the moss gets to thick.)I like using a three way swivel on one leader use a worm and pink marshmellow combo. on the second leader use  power bait.I've never tried  minnows(shiners) but some guys swear by them.Good Luck.[sly]-TIBBZZ-
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