06-15-2008, 09:46 PM
I will absolutely respect yours and TubeDude's reasoning that solid evididence (such as a body) is the only rational way to go. The only reason I included "open minded" in my statement was to address all the short remarks about all the Bigfoot stuff being just a bunch of drunk jokes and nonsense.
I also only believed in the absolute solid unquestionable evidence of a body before I became aware of a few things. No official record of dead bear that has died of completely natural causes in a wilderness area has ever been found. Nor have the remians of one such bear ever just been foun laying out in the open for humans to see. In fact, biologists don't even have a clue as to where bears go to die. Nature has a way of getting rid of a body very fast. And after all the meat is gone, rodents will carry the bones away and eat them. Ask any hunter how many times he has stumbled upon a dead deer or elk or anything for that matter that died of completely natural causes? And also, where most Bigfoot reports come from, there in the Pacific Northewest, the soil is very acidic and the climate very moist. How many dinasaur or fossil bones have you ever heard about or seen from there? Very few indeed. The big bone places are in dry rather neutral soil consistencies.
As far as such a large ape being able to exist there exists definite and undesputable evidence for. There is a box full of bone of a large ape species that lived in Eastern and Southeaster Asia possibly as recently as 250, 000 years or much sooner, 50,000 years. Jaws, neck bones, finger bones and skulls of this species- Gigantopethecus- have been found. And some of those bones have arrow marks from prehistoric and modern Humans' weapons.
Most living creatures that have existed on Earth, over 90% of them have not left a single trace. The fossil record is very limited with huge gaps. It takes extraordinary contiditions and coincidences to preserve a body or bones for a long time. This is not what I say but what scientists in the proper field say. I have spent a large part of my summers since I was 10 years old hiking and exploring mainly with my dad. I am willing to say that it is considerably more than the average child. Of course, as one grows older, time is so precious and I have far less time now, but the only bone I ever found of a naturally dead animal was the lower jaw of an elk (judging by the size of the jaw). This happened last August near Hoop Lake, on the north slope of the Eastern Uintas. The only reason I found it was because there was severe and heavy rain (the heaviest I have seen in Utah) the night before, and it washed pine needles and top soil off a small hill beside a rock. I have no idea how old the bone is.
About four years back, I lived in Eugene, Oregon for about 6 months. There I spoke to a pilot that used to scan the Cascade Mountains for quality trees to cut down for logging companies. He said that the only mammals he ever saw from his plane were deer and elk. Not once did he see any predators like cougar, coyote, black bears, grizzly bears, or Bigfoot. He personally did not believe for or search for Bigfoot, but even he noted that predators are highly in tune wit their surroundings and hide very well.
In short, this is what changed my mind. I know that there is the possibilty of a large ape in North America. For many people, the probability of such an animal is out of the question. But all the reports, sightings, footprints, and handprints help to establish the probability of the animal. Some of these reports/sightings come from Law Enforcement personell and people who have much to risk if anyone discovers they believe in Bigfoot. I can't just treat these people as a bunch of Knuckleheads.
I took a long post to explain myself but I feel it was necessary to show that Bigfoot is not something I wish to believe in. And again, what I meant by open-minded was to tell someone to consider why anyone would believe in Bigfoot.
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I also only believed in the absolute solid unquestionable evidence of a body before I became aware of a few things. No official record of dead bear that has died of completely natural causes in a wilderness area has ever been found. Nor have the remians of one such bear ever just been foun laying out in the open for humans to see. In fact, biologists don't even have a clue as to where bears go to die. Nature has a way of getting rid of a body very fast. And after all the meat is gone, rodents will carry the bones away and eat them. Ask any hunter how many times he has stumbled upon a dead deer or elk or anything for that matter that died of completely natural causes? And also, where most Bigfoot reports come from, there in the Pacific Northewest, the soil is very acidic and the climate very moist. How many dinasaur or fossil bones have you ever heard about or seen from there? Very few indeed. The big bone places are in dry rather neutral soil consistencies.
As far as such a large ape being able to exist there exists definite and undesputable evidence for. There is a box full of bone of a large ape species that lived in Eastern and Southeaster Asia possibly as recently as 250, 000 years or much sooner, 50,000 years. Jaws, neck bones, finger bones and skulls of this species- Gigantopethecus- have been found. And some of those bones have arrow marks from prehistoric and modern Humans' weapons.
Most living creatures that have existed on Earth, over 90% of them have not left a single trace. The fossil record is very limited with huge gaps. It takes extraordinary contiditions and coincidences to preserve a body or bones for a long time. This is not what I say but what scientists in the proper field say. I have spent a large part of my summers since I was 10 years old hiking and exploring mainly with my dad. I am willing to say that it is considerably more than the average child. Of course, as one grows older, time is so precious and I have far less time now, but the only bone I ever found of a naturally dead animal was the lower jaw of an elk (judging by the size of the jaw). This happened last August near Hoop Lake, on the north slope of the Eastern Uintas. The only reason I found it was because there was severe and heavy rain (the heaviest I have seen in Utah) the night before, and it washed pine needles and top soil off a small hill beside a rock. I have no idea how old the bone is.
About four years back, I lived in Eugene, Oregon for about 6 months. There I spoke to a pilot that used to scan the Cascade Mountains for quality trees to cut down for logging companies. He said that the only mammals he ever saw from his plane were deer and elk. Not once did he see any predators like cougar, coyote, black bears, grizzly bears, or Bigfoot. He personally did not believe for or search for Bigfoot, but even he noted that predators are highly in tune wit their surroundings and hide very well.
In short, this is what changed my mind. I know that there is the possibilty of a large ape in North America. For many people, the probability of such an animal is out of the question. But all the reports, sightings, footprints, and handprints help to establish the probability of the animal. Some of these reports/sightings come from Law Enforcement personell and people who have much to risk if anyone discovers they believe in Bigfoot. I can't just treat these people as a bunch of Knuckleheads.
I took a long post to explain myself but I feel it was necessary to show that Bigfoot is not something I wish to believe in. And again, what I meant by open-minded was to tell someone to consider why anyone would believe in Bigfoot.
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