Does anyone know what this fish is?

[davetclown]

I caught a gill in a like in michigan that went 14 inches, it was a dark "deap water roach"

there are breaders that cross these species to make hibreds that are stocked in lakes and ponds... they do tipicaly grow 15-17 inches, they grow at a decent rate to boot wich makes them a plus for any pond.

I remember seeing a company that was selling these stockers... the down side to them is they dont breed, steril for the most part, I will have to do some looking for you as soon as I know the local.
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