11-10-2005, 05:23 PM
Predator and the other gentleman who called me elitist.,
I'm not sure where I said anything that could be construed as "elitist". I made NO comments regarding tackle, type of fishing or catch and release. It almost seems like you guys are have your mind made up about me before I say anything. For the Record, TU is one of the strongest supporters of the Urban Fisheries program. Stonefly Society donated over $10,000 to the construction of Willow Park Pond. Nobody can argue that that place is an elitist spot.
My ethic is really simple: "We should constantly strive for wild sustainable fisheries that are native whenever possible."
I believe that wild fisheries are the cheapest to manage. I am also under no illusions that we can make our stillwaters self sustaining. So yes in those cases, I do favor stocking of fish. I am no catch and release zealot, but I do believe in selective harvest. I've even been known to throw a soft plastic or two for smallmouth.
I don't know how to get the word out on not doing this, and I am glad that many members of this board came to the defense of against bucket biology. The
fact remains is that bucket biology is happening at an ever alarming rate. Whatever we are doing IT IS NOT ENOUGH!!! SO ALL OF US WHO CARE ABOUT OUR FISHERIES NEED TO DO MORE. Not just posting from the PROC that it is illegal, but help people understand why it is illegal.
I would also say that I am glad that the members of this board understand that the practice is illegal, but I've read posts in the past were people attacked the wisdom of making it illegal. What my hope is is that people began to understand "why" it is bad and not that it is illegal.
Here are 4 reasons why it is bad:
1) It can crash a lake ecosystem.
2) It can lead to increase stocking costs on reservoirs were put grow and take management needs to be changed to stocking catchables on a put and take basis. (It costs 8 times more to raise a catchable fish than to raise a 3-5 inch fish).
3) It spreads diseases.
4) It poses a threat to native fish in many waters and those fish may or may not get listed as endangered, listing could have negative impacts on our fishing.
Like someone said, why don't you come out and meet with us. We meet the first Tuesday of every month at the SL County Fish and Game meeting house on Bullion street.
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I'm not sure where I said anything that could be construed as "elitist". I made NO comments regarding tackle, type of fishing or catch and release. It almost seems like you guys are have your mind made up about me before I say anything. For the Record, TU is one of the strongest supporters of the Urban Fisheries program. Stonefly Society donated over $10,000 to the construction of Willow Park Pond. Nobody can argue that that place is an elitist spot.
My ethic is really simple: "We should constantly strive for wild sustainable fisheries that are native whenever possible."
I believe that wild fisheries are the cheapest to manage. I am also under no illusions that we can make our stillwaters self sustaining. So yes in those cases, I do favor stocking of fish. I am no catch and release zealot, but I do believe in selective harvest. I've even been known to throw a soft plastic or two for smallmouth.
I don't know how to get the word out on not doing this, and I am glad that many members of this board came to the defense of against bucket biology. The

I would also say that I am glad that the members of this board understand that the practice is illegal, but I've read posts in the past were people attacked the wisdom of making it illegal. What my hope is is that people began to understand "why" it is bad and not that it is illegal.
Here are 4 reasons why it is bad:
1) It can crash a lake ecosystem.
2) It can lead to increase stocking costs on reservoirs were put grow and take management needs to be changed to stocking catchables on a put and take basis. (It costs 8 times more to raise a catchable fish than to raise a 3-5 inch fish).
3) It spreads diseases.
4) It poses a threat to native fish in many waters and those fish may or may not get listed as endangered, listing could have negative impacts on our fishing.
Like someone said, why don't you come out and meet with us. We meet the first Tuesday of every month at the SL County Fish and Game meeting house on Bullion street.
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