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Hi Guys I'm headed to Alaska this summer and will be fishing for Salmon on some of there rivers and streams as well as taking some charters out of Homer. I am not a fly fisherman even though I have some gear I tend to like fishing with spinning rod equipment. I have used spinning rod and flies sucessfully in the past using a clear plastic float then a seven foot leader then the fly. I will be buying an assortment of pre tied flies from Bass Pro specific for Salmon in Alaska. Does anyone know of any other methods that I might use and what is my best knot for leader to mono? Chief
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The flashy flies that Dryrod posted should be good. Other than that, you will want a nice assortment of Glow Bugs and Mango Flies.
PM me your address and I can send you some of my Mangos. I don't do glow bugs well but my Dad does in UT. Send him a PM for glow bugs.[cool]
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chief wrote: .... [size 1]Does anyone know of any other methods that I might use and what is my best knot for leader to mono? Chief [/size]
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I don't know of any other methods of using spinning gear with a fly other than the bubble and fly method.
Are you using the type of bubble where the spinning line mono passes through the center of the bubble such that the bubble slides freely up and on down the leader? A little water is put inside the bubble to get additional weight to cast the fly a little further.
Most of the people I know that use the bubble and fly method do not use a leader. They tie fly tippet material to a swivel. The other end of the swivel is tied to the spinning mono. But they are not throwing salmon flies.
What knot are you using now and what are you attaching what to?
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...I use the bubble fly method of fishing with my spinning rigs... I dont use a leader but I do use my tippet tied off the end of the spinning rigs line... I use a loop to loop connection to "tie" the two lines together.. as scruffy fly said you can use a swivel tied below the bubble but I would make sure and use a small plastic bead above the swivel to ensure that the bubble does not get jammed onto the swivel.. since I have stopped using the swivel I set my rig up as follows...
..first... go to walmart or any other fishing store and pick up a pack of "keepers" called carolina keepers...
to set up the rig..
slide a carolina keeper up your spinning line to the point where you want your bubbles top to be...
slide your bubble on the line until it reaches the keeper...
slide a second keeper up your line to about an inch or so below the bubble.. this will give you room to open the bubble to get water into it... make sure you leave about a foot of spinning line below the second keeper...
I tie a loop in the spinning line (below the bubble) so I can make the loop to loop connection between my spinning line and my tippet...
..tie a second loop in your tippet and then do the loop to loop conncection between the spinnning line and the tippet...
.. the reason I went away from the swivel was for two reasons..
first was the bubble jamming onto the swivel if I forgot the bead.. and second.. I had times where my line gave way or broke very easily and every time it at the swivel..
since I went away from the swivel and use the loop to loop connection I have not had a knot give way.. in fact, on a recent tubing trip (first one). my fly got hooked on something in the depths of the water and I was litterally able to pull myself over to the spot where my fly was fouled and work it free without losing that fly ...
.. hope this helps..
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[cool][cool]Hi All, Boy it sounds like I've got some real pro's on this one. Thanks Steve for the offer I'll send you a PM. It would be great to be able to afford having all you guys join us in our adventures up north. If I hit a lottery before then consider it done.
I'm not sure if I can explain my methods right for lack of knowing the exact terminology for fly fishing. In fact I had to look up the exact names of the knots I have used, they are the albright and blood knots. Both successfully but the size of my quarry was smaller than what I expect to see in Alaska. the clear plastic bubble is the type that had the rubber band inside to hold it in place. I do let some water in to give the extra weight for casting the fly. My rod will be a medium 7 foot spinning, if you have any line size suggestion that would be good. the keepers I use on my four pound test line to set the depth while crappie fishing are small enough to pass thru the eyes and do not interfer while casting. With the two keeper method it would only pass thru the first eye. I will try the surgeons knot two it may be stonger for the size of the fish.
I have also purchased a super sport 9' pontoon fishing platform to use. I looked at tubes and decided I liked keeping my legs out of the cold waters of Canada and Alaska. I plan on using it for walleyes in Slave Lake Alberta Canada and on some running waters in Alaska. thanks for the help!!! Chief
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Hey Chief. It sounds like you are using the type ll version of the bubble fly for spinning rods.
I also use those "Adjusta Bubbles" when I use the spinning gear. i have heavier flies that I use on normal fly gear but can still be used on the gear that you are using.
I got your PM and will get the flies off to you soon.
Good luck and let me know when you can make it by the Cali area.[cool]
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Hi Ted, I will be using spinning equipment. Chief
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DR... you didnt put your bi-polar worm in the mix.. I know it is smaller.. but then are salmon eggs.. and it is flashy ...
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[center][cool][font "Pristina"][green][size 4]Probably a Bi-Polar worm in a size 6. Purple, Orange, Olive or Pink.. What color do you like MacFly?[/size][/green][/font][/center]
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..Id have to guess orange.. but again I have not fished there before.. Im going by outdoor channel shows and what I have been told about using salmon eggs.. or something that simulates that when fishing for salmon in Alaska... [angelic]
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The Salmon up there tend to fancy Flame Orange, Hot Pink and Chartruese. Pink and Orange combo seems to work the best.[cool]
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Dr You are right!!! I will state it that way in the future. As I said in my first post terminology would be suspect.
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. Will you be using fly rod or a spinning rod setup?
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