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True about Willard? - muirco - 06-13-2025

Does this post have any truth behind it about Willard?  See screenshot from a Willard Facebook post.

RE: True about Willard? - Mildog - 06-13-2025

There was a post earlier discussing this apparently a bunch of the pipe is being staged near south Marina. It is true I’m unsure what access will be when it’s at the lowest levels. I think that is supposed to occur in the”fall”.
I’m sure you can find more info if you google it.

RE: True about Willard? - obifishkenobi - 06-13-2025

I have a meeting for work on Tuesday with Ben the park manager, I will get the facts from him then and post what I find out.

RE: True about Willard? - dubob - 06-13-2025

I couldn't wait Obi.  I called the Weber Basin Water Conservancy and talked with the engineer for this project.  Here is the information he gave me.

This project involves Federal Grant money and has to be used this year or it goes away.  The old pipe is a siphon pipe and isn't sufficient to feed the needed water west of the Bay during extreme drought.  The new pipe will be a direct feed pipe and needs to be placed at a deeper depth and will do so at a slightly different location than the current pipe.  A coffer damn will be constructed around the area of the SW corner to allow the new pipe to be installed without causing a breach of the existing dike.

The project will begin with a drop in water level to an elevation of 4,216 ft starting August 11.  Currently the water level is somewhere between 4,222 & 4,223 ft.  So at most, it will drop another 7 ft.  I haven't checked the depth of the harbor at either the South or North Marina.  I don't know for sure, but think they are both in the neighborhood of about 10 to 12 ft.  So, a 7 ft drop should allow most folks to launch their boats during the project.  The project is scheduled to be completed by the end of December 2025.

RE: True about Willard? - oldguy - 06-13-2025

(06-13-2025, 09:01 PM)dubob Wrote: I couldn't wait Obi.  I called the Weber Basin Water Conservancy and talked with the engineer for this project.  Here is the information he gave me.

This project involves Federal Grant money and has to be used this year or it goes away.  The old pipe is a siphon pipe and isn't sufficient to feed the needed water west of the Bay during extreme drought.  The new pipe will be a direct feed pipe and needs to be placed at a deeper depth and will do so at a slightly different location than the current pipe.  A coffer damn will be constructed around the area of the SW corner to allow the new pipe to be installed without causing a breach of the existing dike.

The project will begin with a drop in water level to an elevation of 4,216 ft starting August 11.  Currently the water level is somewhere between 4,222 & 4,223 ft.  So at most, it will drop another 7 ft.  I haven't checked the depth of the harbor at either the South or North Marina.  I don't know for sure, but think they are both in the neighborhood of about 10 to 12 ft.  So, a 7 ft drop should allow most folks to launch their boats during the project.  The project is scheduled to be completed by the end of December 2025.

Thanks Bob for up dating is.

RE: True about Willard? - Mildog - 06-14-2025

Thanks Bob, great info ! Appreciate you taking your time to dig into that and pass it along!!
Great Work!

RE: True about Willard? - MrShane - 06-14-2025

(06-13-2025, 10:30 PM)oldguy Wrote:
(06-13-2025, 09:01 PM)dubob Wrote: I couldn't wait Obi.  I called the Weber Basin Water Conservancy and talked with the engineer for this project.  Here is the information he gave me.

This project involves Federal Grant money and has to be used this year or it goes away.  The old pipe is a siphon pipe and isn't sufficient to feed the needed water west of the Bay during extreme drought.  The new pipe will be a direct feed pipe and needs to be placed at a deeper depth and will do so at a slightly different location than the current pipe.  A coffer damn will be constructed around the area of the SW corner to allow the new pipe to be installed without causing a breach of the existing dike.

The project will begin with a drop in water level to an elevation of 4,216 ft starting August 11.  Currently the water level is somewhere between 4,222 & 4,223 ft.  So at most, it will drop another 7 ft.  I haven't checked the depth of the harbor at either the South or North Marina.  I don't know for sure, but think they are both in the neighborhood of about 10 to 12 ft.  So, a 7 ft drop should allow most folks to launch their boats during the project.  The project is scheduled to be completed by the end of December 2025.

Thanks Bob for up dating is.
Hey Bob,
I’m shedding tears right now while thinking the water level could drop just enough fishing boats could still launch at lowered level, but wake and surf boats can’t.
Tears of joy!
I say we do the same thing at DC!!

Seriously though, if ‘they’ don’t breach existing dike to lay pipe through, did the engineer say they are boring it through?

RE: True about Willard? - dubob - 06-14-2025

(06-14-2025, 05:13 AM)MrShane Wrote: Seriously though, if ‘they’ don’t breach existing dike to lay pipe through, did the engineer say they are boring it through?
They will trench (breach) the dike to lay in the new pipe.

RE: True about Willard? - MrShane - 06-14-2025

(06-14-2025, 02:11 PM)dubob Wrote:
(06-14-2025, 05:13 AM)MrShane Wrote: Seriously though, if ‘they’ don’t breach existing dike to lay pipe through, did the engineer say they are boring it through?
They will trench (breach) the dike to lay in the new pipe.

I assumed they would breach dike to lay pipe through, I wonder why Weber Engineer said they would not do it that way?

RE: True about Willard? - dubob - 06-14-2025

(06-14-2025, 04:06 PM)MrShane Wrote:
(06-14-2025, 02:11 PM)dubob Wrote:
(06-14-2025, 05:13 AM)MrShane Wrote: Seriously though, if ‘they’ don’t breach existing dike to lay pipe through, did the engineer say they are boring it through?
They will trench (breach) the dike to lay in the new pipe.

I assumed they would breach dike to lay pipe through, I wonder why Weber Engineer said they would not do it that way?
Sorry, I must not have been clear.  The engineer DID say they would breach the dike - dig a trench across it.  The coffer damn they will construct should prevent any water from gaining access to the trench and cause a dike failure.

RE: True about Willard? - MrShane - 06-14-2025

(06-14-2025, 06:19 PM)dubob Wrote:
(06-14-2025, 04:06 PM)MrShane Wrote:
(06-14-2025, 02:11 PM)dubob Wrote:
(06-14-2025, 05:13 AM)MrShane Wrote: Seriously though, if ‘they’ don’t breach existing dike to lay pipe through, did the engineer say they are boring it through?
They will trench (breach) the dike to lay in the new pipe.

I assumed they would breach dike to lay pipe through, I wonder why Weber Engineer said they would not do it that way?
Sorry, I must not have been clear.  The engineer DID say they would breach the dike - dig a trench across it.  The coffer damn they will construct should prevent any water from gaining access to the trench and cause a dike failure.
It’s all good Bob.
The way you just described it is definitely the cheapest way to accomplish that task.
Thanks for explanation!
And, the remains of the coffer dam that never truly get removed will create a little more habitat!!